I do also, every place has their own process and if it's a standard practice 
that works, that's great. 
I've worked at places that did as you, update live link listed libraries on a 
Friday afternoon before a scheduled IPL, crossing their fingers an in prompt-u 
IPL is not done before, or, oh well, my changes are in :) 
I've been in client sites that will not allow you to Stage changes prior to 
your downtime, this controlled by a change managment monitoring tool, if you do 
make a change beforehand, you're toast. 
I've been at site that control changes by keeping 2 sets of SMP/E target 
environments, and you flip from one to the other, this is done for CICS and DB2 
and MQ and...... 
this strategy worked best IMHO but a lot of folks don't like the thought of 
managing 2 target environments. so I think this time you (team) got burnt. tons 
of explanation here on how PDS's allocation should be done and what happens 
when a PDS is emptied/reloaded or compressed without an LLA refresh, all good 
stuff, I'll continue what works for me and NOT allocation secondary space for a 
link listed library and ensure my primary space is adequate for the install + 
maint, if possible. 
my .00002 cents 




Carmen Vitullo 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Eileen Barkow" <ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov> 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:42:25 AM 
Subject: Re: S106 abends after copying into LINKLIST 

I agree that this maintenance strategy is no good but the MVS group does not 
want to have to change parmlib for new maintenance, so 
We now have to do the updates right before an IPL - usually about 4am on Sunday 
mornings. 
We used to at least keep separate linklist/lpa datasets for different releases 
of CICS - now the same datasets get overlaid for new releases as well as 
maintenance. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Seymour J Metz 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 11:29 AM 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: S106 abends after copying into LINKLIST 

> Perhaps someone can offer a plausible explanation for this, so that 
> the MVS group will stop blaming the CICS group for the problem. 

An explanation will not stop the MVS group from blaming the CICS group for a 
problem caused by the CICS group. Your current maintenance strategy is 
dangerous and is the cause of the problem. 


-- 
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz 
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 

________________________________________ 
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of 
Barkow, Eileen <ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov> 
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 10:09 AM 
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu 
Subject: S106 abends after copying into LINKLIST 

Hi MVS gurus. 
Perhaps someone can offer a plausible explanation for this, so that 
the MVS group will stop blaming the CICS group for the problem. 

Last friday morning we copied new CICS LINKLIST/LPA modules into the existing 
LINKLIST/LPA loadlibs 
in use (a rather new scenario in use here - we used to use alternative 
datasets), in anticipation of an IPL to 
be done sunday morning. 
anyway, around 6pm friday evening, an I/O error occured in linklist and other 
jobs started abending with S106 abends. 
the linklist library was not allocated with secondary extents and there was no 
LLA refresh issued during 
the day. I cannot find anything like this situation occurring on IBMLINK and we 
have no dump of the original failure. 

Does anyone have any idea of what could have caused the I/O error. 
both the input and output datasets have a max blksize of 32760. 

IEW4009I FETCH FAILED FOR MODULE DFHXCPRX FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- BECAUSE 
OF AN I/O ERROR. 
IEW4005I FETCH FOR MODULE DFHXCPRX FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED BECAUSE 
IEWFETCH ISSUED RC 0F AND REASON 40 
CSV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE DFHXCPRX, RETURN CODE 24, 
REASON CODE 26080021, DDNAME *LNKLST* 





________________________________ 

This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or 
otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you 
received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it 
to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its 
attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete 
the e-mail from your system. 


---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, 
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN 

---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, 
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN 

---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, 
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN 


----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Reply via email to