Terrific!  Me, I gave up on 'standard' (such a thing?) keyboards all
together  http://www.typematrix.com/  4 of them so far, w/2 desktops, a
laptop and a spare but none in the command center... where I type a lot
slower now and that's not always a bad thing.
Gregg
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You wrote:
Scroll-Lock Key
When the Scroll Lock keyboard indicator is turned on, the cursor movement
keys and the Page Up and Page Down keys are used to scroll windows only
when
you specify With Scroll-Bar in the Window Setup window.

That's precisely what's frustrating, when you're trying to scroll up or
down and it won't.  And you
cannot move the cursor with the cursor positioning keys.  I've seen people
kill a 32790 session because
they thought it was non-responsive.

But I think I've been "wixing up my mords".  This happened to last to me
when using a PCom session
in our "Command Center" at a system console.  *Not* on my laptop.  I tried
to recreate it on my laptop
(which has the scroll bar enabled) and could not do so.

So... your answer is perfect.  You can guess which PCom sessions are about
to be changed... every one
in the data center!  :-)  Thanks!!

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.

P.S. I still loath the damned key anyway!!  They try to squeeze more keys
on the keyboard but won't
get rid of this one, which as far as I know has not been used since DOS
days gone by.


                                                                           
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Sorry, well there may be a registry hack...

The Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator won't change it, just as the PCOMM
manual states:
There are seven keys that you cannot redefine and they are gray or dimmed
in Keyboard Setup; these keys are: Alt, AltGr, Print Screen, Scroll Lock,
CapsLock, NumLock, and Shift.

I'm curious though what the frustrating things are...


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Nice to know, but I usually don't have the scroll-bar turned on to that I
can see the full screen, even if I shrink the window size.  Thanks.
Still want to just turn off the damned key!  :-)

Mike



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Does this help?

Scroll-Lock Key
When the Scroll Lock keyboard indicator is turned on, the cursor movement
keys
and the Page Up and Page Down keys are used to scroll windows only when
you
specify With Scroll-Bar in the Window Setup window. If you specify Without
Scroll-Bar, you cannot use the Scroll Lock key, because the entire screen
is
displayed. For example, cursor-movement keys do nothing in Scroll Lock
mode.

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We use IBM Personal Communications for 3270 emulation (PLEASE, I like it
and I also have absolutely NO SAY in what we use - let's not suggest
alternatives for this one problem).

When the Scroll Lock (or "ScrLk") key is (always accidentally) pressed
from an emulated 3270, odd and very frustrating things happen.  On my full
keyboards I always just pull the Scroll Lock keycap right off they
keyboard (along with the stupid Windows keys).

But my IBM X41 laptop has Scroll Lock (defined as the lower-case key) and
NumLock key (defined as the uppercase key) on the same key, so I cannot
readily pry that keycap off without losing NumLock, too.

PCOM's keyboard remapping utility won't allow you to re-map (or turn off)
the Scroll Lock key.  Has anyone else discovered a way to forcibly prevent
this cursed key from working while in a 3270 emulator session?  Thanks in
advance.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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