Better to have overkill than am embarrassing oops!
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward M. Martin
Sent: July 25, 2006 13:18
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM paging problem
Hello Richard,
Thanks for the info. I was planning on having a STD, SDF, and
a complete SPOOL. Overkill, maybe.
Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ext. 40441
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Richard Feldman (WFF)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:59 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM paging problem
>
> Would suggest dumping STD for your rdr, pun, prt, and dumping your SDF
> files separately. That way you can load the SDF first on a
clean/noauto
> start, then reipl, and load in your STD later.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Feldman
> Senior IT Architect
> Kelly, Douglas / Westfair Foods Ltd.
> Ph:(403)291-6339 Fax:(403)291-6585
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Edward M. Martin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:24 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM paging problem
>
> Hello Mike.
>
> Ok that explains the performance part.
>
> I am doing a SPXTAPE DUMP 580 SPOOL before we shutdown.
>
> If I can get time (I will have tons of new volumes) I will make
> a new
> spool volume.
>
> Ed Martin
> Aultman Health Foundation
> 330-588-4723
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ext. 40441
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mike Walter
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:58 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: z/VM paging problem
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > As noted in earlier posts, having SPOOL allocations on the same DASD
> with
> > other activity causes a break in CP's "seldom ending channel
program"
> > which supports SPOOL operations (reader, print, punch, NSSes, etc.).
> If
> > you have a DASD to spare, you'd be better off allocating a new SPOOL
> area
> > to a DASD dedicated for SPOOL. Again, z/VM 5.1 and newer
installation
> is
> > performed this way -- with SPOOL and PAGE on their own DASD.
> >
> > Moving SPOOL is trickier than paging, since you really want to
retain
> the
> > SPOOL files across IPLs vs pages that won't matter when the system
is
> > IPLed.
> > The CP DRAIN and START commands (which can be placed in the SYSTEM
> CONFIG,
> > IIRC) can be your friend to get you started, but eventually you're
> going
> > to need to SPXTAPE DUMP and SPXTAPE load all the SPOOL files to get
> them
> > on the new DASD.
> >
> > One would thing that after all the years of repeated questions about
> > moving page and spool volumes, there would be a step-by-step
document
> > showing how to do it for a single volume (and as an example for all
> > volumes).
> >
> > Mike Walter
> > Information Technology Services
> > Hewitt Associates
> > The words herein are mine, not those of my employer.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Edward M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> > 07/25/2006 10:34 AM
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> > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
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> >
> >
> > To
> > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
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> >
> > Subject
> > Re: z/VM paging problem
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> > My spool area is smaller than I like.
> > I am working on more area.
> >
> > q alloc page
> > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH %
> > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED
> > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> > 430RES 0792 257 390 24120 761 810 3%
> > 430W03 075C 1802 1901 18000 240 250 1%
> > ------ ------ ----
> > SUMMARY 42120 1001 2%
> > USABLE 42120 1001 2%
> >
> >
> > q alloc spool
> > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH %
> > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED
> > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> > 430RES 0792 79 256 32040 30205 32040 94%
> > 430W03 075C 200 400 36180 14536 31107 40%
> > ------ ------ ----
> > SUMMARY 68220 44741 65%
> > USABLE 68220 44741 65%
> >
> >
> > Ed Martin
> > Aultman Health Foundation
> > 330-588-4723
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ext. 40441
> >
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of David Boyes
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:17 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: z/VM paging problem
> >
> > Have you also checked your spool areas? One can overflow into
another
> if
> > your page areas are full, and if all you use the VM system for is to
> > support guests, you may have reached the point where you need more
> space
> > than you have. I?ve also seen this error when a paging area was
> > incompletely formatted (off by 1 error on my part).
> >
> > David Boyes
> > Sine Nomine Associates
> >
> >
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