Ok, I had to ask. But also, which flavor IFL are you running? A z800 might be considered slow (or very slow) by some and not competitive, and a z9 might be considered a "rocket ship".... Personally, the z9 IFL makes us competitive on a CPU basis (except for weather modeling and things like that).


Paul Raulerson wrote:

Nope, but I sure wish it were so Barton. We need a performance monitor anyway, and that would be just more fuel for the fire. :) What blew us away was a very simple desire to backup around 4 to 6 million files per night, store them on tape, and keep about 45 days of them on hand. Yes, this is perhaps "primitive" compared to what TSM can do, but we figured that was all the more to the better- it would be able to do it without any trouble. The sheer number of the files brought the machine here to it's knees - not because of the I/O, but because of the database transactions and the really huge size of the database after about of, three weeks. Tried it on bare metal as well, eliminating z/VM and every thing other possible source of any kind of overhead. Zang... BTW: That hugh size of te database was only a coupe hundred gigabytes, but the IBM TSM people goggled in horror at it... That was worth the trip to see! :) The blades have not even a fraction of the I/O throughput of the mainframe, but with four cores cranking on the database, we actually get four to five times higher throughput. I'm thinking of tossing a second blade at it if I can get 'em t share the TS1120s. Sometimes, no matter how clever or intelligent you are about using CPU resources, you just near to pour enormous numbers of cycles at a problem. At least, that is the TSM way... ;) -Paul




Paul, any chance you are having an easily fixable performance problem with TSM backups that a decent performance monitor will point out?



Paul Raulerson wrote:


What are you running on Mark? And how much are you backing up. I really need some GOOD

examples of TSM working! :)

I do have a large number of document images to back up each day, so what happens to us

is the database gets really large, well over a hungred gigabytes. At htat 
point, it
cannot expire information before new backups are being added, and it *all* goes 
downhill
from there. I blame the ancient version of DB/2 that is embededed it in, and 
the Linux
kernel version that is required to run a TSM server on z/Linux on an IFL.

-Paul





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Subject:
Re: zSeries Linux - White Paper for Management
From:
"Mark Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:23:00 +0000
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU


Really? That hasn't been my experience at all. Runs like a rocketship here.

Mark L. Wheeler
IT Infrastructure, 3M Center B224-4N-20, St Paul MN 55144
Tel:  (651) 733-4355, Fax:  (651) 736-7689
mlwheeler at mmm.com

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