I tested this on one of our test machines: nothing gets lost when a
DASD is relabeled *and* the label change is applied to SYSTEM CONFIG
too.  CP does indeed prompts for a FORCE start.  SPFPACK confirmed
that I had files on the relabeled pack.
13:27:17 The directory on volume VMBRS1 at address F1BC has been brought online.
13:27:17 HCPWRM9200E System recovery failure; configuration error.
13:27:17 HCPASK9205A
HCPASK9205A Invalid warm start data encountered.
HCPASK9205A No files have been deleted yet.
HCPASK9205A To change to a FORCE start, enter FORCE.
HCPASK9205A To stop processing, enter STOP.
13:27:35 FORCE
13:27:36 HCPWRS2513I
HCPWRS2513I Spool files available      415
13:27:37 HCPWRS2512I Spooling initialization is complete.
13:27:37 DASD F532 dump unit CP IPL pages 6611
13:27:37 HCPAAU2700I System gateway VMKBMB01 identified.
13:27:37 z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, Service Level 0701 (64-bit),

2008/3/28, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The Oracle or one of its agents has spoken. Thanks, John.
>
>  Would marking the disk as draining in the config file prevent the loss
>  of anything caused by the timing of the detection of the difference that
>  you describe?
>
>  Another question, would backing up only files that are at least
>  partially contained on the disk be sufficient? We are talking about a
>  spool system that normally fluctuates between 7000 and 18000 files, many
>  of them quite large, and we are stuck with old tape technology (3 tapes
>  to contain a DDR of a 3390-03). It would be my luck that it would be the
>  higher number when my scheduled time arrived so that backing up the
>  entire spool would take quite a bit of time.
>
>  I envision a process like this:
>
>  Before IPL (all can be done while the system is running)
>  1. DRAIN the disk, including update of SYSTEM CONFIG to indicate that it
>  was to be drained or draining at IPL.
>  2. Use SPFACK to identify files that have at least 1 block on the pack.
>  3. PURGE unnecessary files.
>  4. Use SPXTAPE DUMP/LOAD to move the remaining files to the other spool
>  volumes.
>  5. Reliable the pack.
>  6. Update the system config with the new volser. The pack would be left
>  in the draining state.
>
>  After IPL
>  1. FORCE start.
>  2. Update system config so that the disk is no longer draining.
>  3  Start the device.
>
>  Would that be safe enough? If so, it would minimize the down time, which
>  is a major consideration. I would also schedule the IPL to coincide with
>  already scheduled activities that require the system to be down.
>
>
>  Regards,
>  Richard Schuh
>
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Franciscovich
>  > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:09 PM
>  > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>  > Subject: Re: CPOWNED Devices
>  >
>  > >I've renamed spool volumes several times, four or more years
>  > ago, but a
>  > >force start was required. I don't recall whether it was
>  > VM/ESA or z/VM.
>  > >I would recommend a spool backup before attempting it. And
>  > if it is for
>  > >a production system, then schedule enough time to reload spool, if
>  > >necessary.
>  >
>  > A FORCE start will be required since the new CP_Owned list
>  > does not match the CP_Owned list that was saved in the
>  > checkpoint area when you shut down your system.
>  >
>  > The spool files are restored from the warmstart area during
>  > IPL, so they should be ok. You do risk losing information
>  > that was saved in the checkpoint area that hasn't been
>  > processed by the time the difference in the CP_Owned list is detected.
>  >
>  > In any event, I agree that a spool file backup is a good idea
>  > before attempting this change.
>  >
>  > John Franciscovich
>  > z/VM Development
>  >
>


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Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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