I have to find the stuff, but at the z Expo we were told that mixing DASD
types in a page farm is BAAAAD!  I don't remember right off hand why.  Maybe
someone else can chime in while I research.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What will be the effect, other than having additional space available,
> of adding five mod 9 disks to the existing page farm of 35 mod 3s? Would
> there be a noticeable change in the performance of the paging subsystem?
> (I suspect that any change will be less noticeable than the effects of
> filling both page and spool. :-) )
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:36 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Page Space
> >
> > Do the math....  Number one reason for ONE outage at each new
> > z/linux installation is to fill up page space - guess you
> > were lucky and had some extra spool space (no block paging so
> > slow), so you luckily didn't take the outage - which makes
> > your servers even slower....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Schuh, Richard wrote:
> >
> > > Don't presume. 92G real, 10 xstore. All MDC activity is in real,
> > > limited to 384MB. And I do not know the color of the machine :-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Richard Schuh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:29 AM
> > >>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > >>Subject: Re: Page Space
> > >>
> > >>You didn't say how much real memory you have.  Presumably less than
> > >>60G
> > >>:)
> > >>
> > >>You either add enough real memory or you add enough page
> > space to hold
> > >>them all (at less that 50% occupied.  I don't think there
> > are miracles
> > >>available in this scenario.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Marcy
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>________________________________
> > >>
> > >>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:20 AM
> > >>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > >>Subject: [IBMVM] Page Space
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Yesterday, we were running a test using 17 z/TPF virtual
> > machines, 3GB
> > >>each. This was in addition to the normal load on the system. During
> > >>the test, which was not moving along very quickly, nothing was,  I
> > >>noticed that our page packs were 100% allocated, up from the usual
> > >>10%. This stood out as a smoking gun, verified by watching the
> > >>performance improve as each of the ids in the test logged off. I
> > >>presume that this should have been expected; however, other matters
> > >>have kept us so busy that we did not do the math. I imagine
> > that the
> > >>one way to avoid this type of problem, we expect a peak of
> > >>approximately 150 concurrent z/TPF systems in the coming year, is a
> > >>massive injection of paging DASD. Is this the only answer
> > or are there
> > >>any other steps that we can take to help?
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Richard Schuh
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>



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