I think whether NEEDPASS YES is still needed is an "it depends" and should be left to the customer. What is needed, however, is a re-engineering or a redesign or rethinking of how and where it is defined in DIRMAINT. In talking to some developer in Endicott (don't remember who), what came thru is that from the developer standpoint, they know the product and definition tables so well that it is not apparent to them how totally confusing DIRMAINT is from a setup or installation standpoint. Coupling the confusion of DIRMAINT with RACF takes the confusion factor to a whole new dimension. Take some VM sysprog from off the street who doesn't live with DIRMAINT every day and have them install it and take note of the questions and problems they encounter.
Just my opinion.

Jim


Alan Altmark wrote:
I'm not denying the requirement (need/desire) for the capability. The question was asked whether the way it works is correct or not. It is working as we (IBM) intend. Over time I hope to provide better controls for this sort of thing. It was not until recently that LOGON BY considerations began to appear in implicit authorizations.

This leads me to ask: Is NEEDPASS YES still needed? I view it as an anachronism from an older time when we didn't have autolock screensavers and generally more stringent workstation security policies. No more "always on" terminals.
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


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