> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Dave Jones
> Sent: 21 April 2009 14:22
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Installing IBM z/VM to Hercules
> 
> Hi, Marc.
> 
> The unfortuate status of the z/VM 5.3 evaluation version is
> that it's license from IBM states that it can only be
> installed on a z10 system. Installing it anywhere else would
> be a violation of the license terms.
> 

I am not a lawyer but the wording in the license is, to me, really odd. It
starts by saying it will run on a Z10, but it doesn't say you can ONLY run
it on a Z10. It actually says:-

"You are not authorized to install or use this Program on any machine that
does not properly implement 64-bit z/Architecture"

I am not sure if that means if any one still has a licensed version of FLEX
with 64 bit support they could run it.

> Yes, Hercules can run the evaluation version, so I've been
> told, but not legally. 

Actually most Hercules machines can't run the Eval as it needs 3Gb of
memory, which most users can't provide... 

> I'd like for IBM to offer some sort
> of hobby or non-commerical or educational license for z/VM,
> just so folks like yourself, newcomers to thjis operating
> system, could have some hands on experience at a very low
> cost point, but that's not happened yet.
> 
> One thing you can do is follow this list....a lot of
> advanced z/VM features and uses get discussed here by some
> really sharp VM-ers.
> 

Can I second that. It’s a great place to hang out...

> Have a good one.
> 
> DJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marc Schoechlin <mschoech...@256bit.org>
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Installing IBM z/VM to Hercules
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:04:17 +0200
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > i'm really interested in getting a deeper understanding of
> > IBM z/VM.
> >
> > I was very happy that IBM offers now a evaluation version
> > of z/VM 5.3 to everyone: http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/
> >
> > I really like hercules to play around with Linux for
> > zSeries - but is it also allowed to run this z/VM
> > evaluation version on hercules ? As i can remember, this
> > was not allowed in the past.
> >
> > From my point of view this would be really good for z/VM
> > because: - everybody (i.e. students) can get a deeper
> > experience of z/VM - one can have full administration
> > priviledges
> >   (employers/universities do typically not grant full
> > administration priviledges) - one can have a portable
> > mainframe
> >   (i.e. you play around with z/VM in the subway)
> > - a better motivation to build up z/VM knowledge, because
> > you are
> >   not dependent to your employers or university hardware
> > - also universities which do not own a mainframe can teach
> > mainframe knowledge - companies test their software on the
> > mainframe - this emulator is available on linux and
> > windows
> >
> > How can i install the z/VM eval version on hercules?
> >
> > Are there any redbooks/howtos available?
> > (With the 3.0.6 release, hercules supports dvd-hmc
> > support.)
> >
> > Really cool would be a set of hercules dasd-images
> > downloadable at the IBM website ;-)
> >
> > Best regards
> > Marc Schöchlin

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