Two excellent explanations by Mr. Troth and Mr. Laflamme, they are right
on.  Thank you.  The sad part is we set this scenario up to overcome
POLITICAL boundaries between I/S fiefdoms and showcase the technologies.
We do not do this in production. 

Some of the guys still tics.

David Dean
Information Systems
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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Richard Troth
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:29 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Shared File System Interface

Layers upon layers.
Or ... airport hubs and multi-hop flights.
You need to go from Nashville to Brimingham, but you're flying Delta.
Well, Delta's hub is in Atlanta, so your trip will have a layover there.
Might as well drive!


Maybe you got a new office.
You're spartan enough, so you can haul your stuff within the same
building.
Oh ... but there's a contract with some facility manglement firm, so
you have to pay $300 for them to do it ... just because.
And you have to wait.


In this case, NFS brings more overhead.  LOTS more.  (Disclosure: I
use NFS ... A LOT ... but I also know there are times one should not
use it.)  Using NFS to give Linux access to SFS files is ... like that
Atlanta layover.  Overhead makes z people ... well, twichy.  (Some z
people and other systems programmers actually shudder at wasteful
overhead, though I that the concept is of no concern to ... er, uh ...
Agile programmers.)  (Ooohhh...  I may have hit a nerve with that
jab.)


-- R;   <><





On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Gary M. Dennis
<gary.den...@mantissa.com> wrote:
> "Twitchy" -  is a squirrel and  best friend of Wolf W. Wolf in
Hoodwinked.
>
> "twitchy" as used below makes me, well.... Twitchy.
>
> Could you elaborate on why use of SFS via NFS  "Sort of makes the z
guys
> twitchy"
>
> --.  .-  .-.  -.--
>
> Gary Dennis
> Mantissa Corporation
>
>
> On 5/1/09 7:39 AM, "Dean, David (I/S)" <david_d...@bcbst.com> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Then you can Samba out the NFS to window's boxes and have a
really
> nice file server.  Sort of makes the z guys twitchy though.
>
> David Dean
> Information Systems
> *bcbstauthorized*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
On
> Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:15 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Shared File System Interface
>
> On Wednesday, 04/29/2009 at 01:06 EDT, Dave Jones
> <d...@vsoft-software.com> wrote:
>> Nope, afraid not....but it would be way cool if Linux, as a guest of
>> z/VM, could read/write SFS directories and files.
>
> It can.  It just needs to use NFS to do it.
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
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