> > -  I'm probably not understanding -- but writing 1's or 0's more than
> once
> > to a disk area seems, well, silly.   Do 'passes' imply that each pass
> is
> > covering more 'area' or something?   Whenever I do things like 0 a
> disk
> > using the dd command -- I assume the entire disk is being written to
> and any
> > subsequent dd commands are unnecessary and redundant.

Nope, not silly at all. The idea is that repeating the writes with different 
patterns of data blurs the magnetic image on the disk of the "original" data, 
making it progressively harder (but not impossible) to recover the data via 
laboratory means. The DSF INSPECT command is pretty effective for 
decommissioning disks, but it's not good enough if you have milspec erasure 
requirements. Melting is pretty much safe. Use of old disks as live-fire 
ordnance test targets is also popular (and much more fun). 8-)

> > - If we do a DIRM PURGE user CLEAN --  is that sufficient to meet any
> DoD
> > rules, etc concerning securely wiping data?   

No. At minimum, DSF INSPECT, more common: destroy the platters completely. 

> Anyway, to your real question: there is allegedly/apparently latent
> magnetism in a bit, such that it's at least *theoretically* possible
> to recover data from a formatted drive. 

More than theoretical. It's not easy, but a good forensics lab can do it. 

> Has anyone ever actually done this? Not that I know of, but I haven't
> really looked. Obviously they'd need physical access to the disks and
> a fair bit of time.

Yes. One *past* (I don't do that stuff any more) client of mine manufactured 
"instruments of policy" -- aka military weapons. One of their other contractors 
wiped an important pack several times and they had to send it to a secured 
forensics lab for recovery. 4 months and several million dollars later, they 
were able to read about 80% of the data. 

-- db

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