In the immortal words of Homer Simpson "D'oh"!
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM Q SET has lots of things in there, RUN is last on line 1. Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM Exactly what are the reasons (if there is more than one) that will cause CP for FORCE a user off? (If more than one, it would be nice to have at least a reason code for the FORCE.) Will "SET RUN ON" prevent a FORCE? Why don't I see a "QUERY RUN" command? Is there no way to tell if "SET RUN ON" was set? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wakser, David Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM Frank: Probably because it was actually logged onto a terminal and had a CP READ (or a VM READ). Those are what the system forces off. David Wakser ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: FORCED BY SYSTEM I'm at a loss as to why our TEST (luckily) z/VSE system got FORCED. As far as I can tell it was active up until midnight: J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:30 01/11/10 J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:31 01/11/10 J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:36 01/11/10 J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:37 01/11/10 J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:42 01/11/10 J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:42 01/11/10 (rest of console could have been lost because of buffering) But at midnight... 10/01/12 00:00:00 : 00:00:00 GRAF 6F07 DISCONNECT AILTEST USERS = 35 FORCED BY SYSTEM Then 15 minutes later... 10/01/12 00:15:00 : 00:15:00 USER DSC LOGOFF AS AILTEST USERS = 34 FORCED BY SYSTEM Was this because the virtual machine's console was (originally) connected to a real terminal? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. 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