AHA! If you were connected at the time, the attempt by CP to write the midnight message would probably have been the trigger. Is there a message on the OPERATOR stating that your machine was FORCE disconnected 15 minutes before it was forced off?
Regards, Richard Schuh > -----Original Message----- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:42 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM > > Could be...I remember getting the BSOD on my XP system > yesterday...just don't remember if I had the console at the tome. > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE > American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 > 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 > Waco, Texas 76710 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:33 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM > > Frank, > > The message you posted says that AILTEST was disconnected > from graf 6F07, so this guest must have been logged on at > that terminal. Any problems with that terminal? > > What was running in partition J1 that kept going into a wait state? > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers > <framaek...@ailife.com> wrote: > > CONSOLE is disconnected (it's never used, except for an > emergency and > > to > > REIPL.) > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > > Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & > RHCE American > > Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 > Wooded Acres Dr. > > Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] > > On Behalf Of fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:02 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM > > > > Frank, > > > > the SET RUN ON doesn't hold the system when it enters the > CP READ state. > > > > You can set it dynamically by SEND CP vse-userid SET RUN ON. This > > options cannot be queried by Q RUN. You must enter Q SET. > > output of Q SET > > > > MSG ON , WNG ON , EMSG ON , ACNT OFF, *RUN ON * LINEDIT ON > , TIMER OFF > > , ISAM OFF, ECMODE ON ASSIST OFF , PAGEX OFF, AUTOPOLL OFF > IMSG ON , > > SMSG OFF , AFFINITY NONE , NOTRAN OFF VMSAVE OFF, 370E OFF STBYPASS > > OFF , STMULTI OFF 00/000 MIH OFF , VMCONIO OFF , CPCONIO > OFF , SVCACCL > > OFF , CONCEAL OFF MACHINE ESA, SVC76 CP, NOPDATA OFF, IOASSIST OFF > > > > Do you run your VSE disconnected or logged on? I normally > use dialed > > devices for the vse consoles. Thus it's easy to get the > console at any > > vm enabled terminal, even if you are connected over a VPN. > > > > kind regards > > Franz Josef Pohlen > > > > > > Frank M. Ramaekers schrieb: > >> > >> Exactly what are the reasons (if there is more than one) that will > >> cause CP for FORCE a user off? (If more than one, it would > be nice to > >> have at least a reason code for the FORCE.) > >> > >> Will "SET RUN ON" prevent a FORCE? Why don't I see a "QUERY RUN" > >> command? Is there no way to tell if "SET RUN ON" was set? > >> > >> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > >> > >> > >> > >> Systems Programmer > >> > >> > >> > >> MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE > >> > >> American Income Life Insurance Co. > >> > >> > >> > >> Phone: (254)761-6649 > >> > >> 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. > >> > >> > >> > >> Fax: (254)741-5777 > >> > >> Waco, Texas 76701 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > >> > >> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System > >> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] > > > >> *On Behalf Of *Wakser, David > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM > >> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > >> *Subject:* Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM > >> > >> Frank: > >> > >> Probably because it was actually logged onto a terminal > and had a CP > >> READ (or a VM READ). Those are what the system forces off. > >> > >> David Wakser > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > >> > >> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System > >> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] > > > >> *On Behalf Of *Frank M. Ramaekers > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:13 AM > >> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > >> *Subject:* FORCED BY SYSTEM > >> > >> I'm at a loss as to why our TEST (luckily) z/VSE system > got FORCED. > >> As > > > >> far as I can tell it was active up until midnight: > >> > >> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:30 01/11/10 > >> > >> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:31 > >> 01/11/10 > >> > >> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:36 01/11/10 > >> > >> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:37 > >> 01/11/10 > >> > >> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:42 01/11/10 > >> > >> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:42 > >> 01/11/10 > >> > >> (rest of console could have been lost because of buffering) > >> > >> But at midnight... > >> > >> 10/01/12 00:00:00 : 00:00:00 GRAF 6F07 DISCONNECT AILTEST > USERS = 35 > >> FORCED BY SYSTEM > >> > >> Then 15 minutes later... > >> > >> 10/01/12 00:15:00 : 00:15:00 USER DSC LOGOFF AS AILTEST USERS = 34 > >> FORCED BY SYSTEM > >> > >> Was this because the virtual machine's console was (originally) > >> connected to a real terminal? > >> > >> Frank M. 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