Tom Duerbusch <duerbus...@stlouiscity.com> wrote:-

> Currently we are running TUBES/GCS session manager.

> Well, seems the company that took over Macro/4 is raising prices, as in 
double.

We used to use VTAM as our primary console access method and needed 
session manager software as a result. We moved away from that because of 
the cost and limitations (in number and characteristics of sessions). We 
now have no VM/VTAM at all.

> So, we are now looking at other VM/VTAM session managers.
> Multiple TN3270 sessions really is going to be a hard sell.  We have 
some users that have 10-15 sessions active.

I do work with multiple TN3270 sessions and often have more than 10-15 
sessions open (we support 8 different systems). Once you get used to it, 
it is extremely easy and flexible. You can have as many sessions on your 
desktop as it can support and, if you want another session to the same 
target, you can just click on 'run the same' and - hey presto - there you 
are! 

> Also, we have some coax users....

That is good. You don't want all your eggs in one basket in case you have 
to perform some TCPIP maintenance on your system. I assume that, just 
because you have a COAX connection, there is no reason why you cannot also 
use TN3270 connections (in fact for most of your work)

> So, what products are out there, that:

> 1.  Can be used as VSE Consoles (i.e. dial vse 01f) and can support 
IPL'ing VSE systems.
      I don't see any issue with that
> 2.  Can switch between about two dozen sessions.
      Yes
> 3.  Can keep all the sessions active, if the PC/Terminal is 
disconnected.
      Not sure how you mean. My sessions stay active when my PC is locked.
> 4.  Would be nice to do cross domain to VSE VTAM for CICS sessions.
      ?
> 5.  Support 3270 Model 2 thru Model 5 terminals.
      Yes - and non-standard sizes as well. I mostly use 43x160 sessions

> A lot cheaper than $20K per year for Tubes/GCS.
      Yes - how about $0K per whatever period you want


Colin Allinson
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH

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