That explains it Mike.

All these instances were before the PROFILE EXEC started which kinda 
defeats the purpose.

I will put the commands in the DIRECTORY with the hope that it will kick 
in earlier, before the PROFILE EXEC starts.
 



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Well, George, it's set the way you want it, at that moment in time. 

But that's only set once the OPERATOR virtual machine has been constructed 

in compliance with the CP Directory statements defining its parameters, it 

has logged on, IPLed CMS, and run through the PROFILE EXEC through the 
point of executing that 'CP TERM HOLD OFF MORE 0 0'. 

Sidebar:
"TERM" is an abbreviation, better to spell out all commands in EXECs 
fully, in this case as: 'CP TERMINAL HOLD OFF MORE 0 0'
REXX performs marginally better when all commands are quoted, uppercased, 
and fully spelled out (no abbrevs). 
But mostly, if you do that as a matter of course and ever have to scan 
MDISKs for all references to a particular command, the search is 
dramatically reduced if abbreviations don't have to be scanned for! 

I'd try placing the command in the directory entry of "OPERATOR" as others 

have mentioned before.  That reduces, but does not totally eliminate, the 
narrow time window between the IPL messages being displayed and OPERATOR 
getting logged on and entering that command.

Would you mind copy/pasting the IPL messages from the very first one 
through where OPERATOR gets logged on, maybe just a little more, too? 

And... what model 3270 emulator terminal is being used for OPERATOR?  E.g. 

a MOD2, MOD3, MOD4, MOD5, or some other? 
If "other", how many lines does that terminal display?

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
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q term 
16:09:56 LINEND  # , LINEDEL  ยข , CHARDEL  @ , ESCAPE  " , TABCHAR  ] 
16:09:56 LINESIZE 080, ATTN OFF, APL OFF, TEXT OFF, MODE VM, HILIGHT OFF 
16:09:56 CONMODE 3215, BREAKIN   IMMED , BRKKEY PA1  , SCRNSAVE OFF 
16:09:56 AUTOCR ON , MORE 000 000, HOLD OFF, TIMESTAMP CP , SYS3270 OFF 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:09:56 




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What does ?Q TERM? show? 
 
 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. 
 

 



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Everything looks good except for 'MORE" processing. 

Although the OPERATOR screen does not got to "HOLD", it waits the default 
50 seconds before scrolling to the next screen. 

It seems to be ignoring the  first  0 in TERM MORE 0 0 

Whether I use 2 TERM commands or 1 the result is the same. 

>From OPERATOR's PROFILE EXEC: 

Address Command 
'SYNONYM SYN' 
'CP TERMINAL MODE VM' 
'CP SPOOL CONSOLE * START' 
'CP SET RUN ON' 
'CP TERM HOLD OFF MORE 0 0' 
'CP SET PF11 RETRIEVE FORWARD' 
'CP SET PF12 RETRIEVE BACKWARD' 
'CP SET PF23 RETRIEVE FORWARD' 
'CP SET PF24 RETRIEVE BACKWARD' 

Is the SET RUN ON perhaps interfering? 

It should be noted this is a PoC at Level 2 

Perhaps this difference in behavior is connected with that. 

Or is this how it is supposed to work?. 


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Hi, George.

To get CP to automatically IPL with no operator prompts for what kind of
IPL to do and to set the date and time, add the following to the
FEATURES statement in the production SYSTEM CONFIG file:

ENABle AUTO_WARM_IPL,


To have the TERM MORE 0 0 and TERM HOLD OFF commands automatically be
issued at IPL time, you can either:

1) have the OPERATOR user id IPL CMS (with PARM AUTOCR specified) and
then have the PROFILE EXEC file issue the CP TERM commands,

or

2) add the COMMAND directory control statement to OPERATOR's user
directory entry like so:

COMMAND TERM MORE 0 0
COMMAND TERM HOLD OFF

if you do not want OPERATOR running CMS.
Have a good one.




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> ty, Kris and Alan, but what happens when the IPL prompts for Change
> Date/Time?
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> Can the prompt be surpressed?
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> Also, what is the best way to issue the TERM command?
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> Is there a way to prevent the Level 1 operator console screen from
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> SET RUN ON will not.
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