Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people who can't type.
In the mainframe world and particularly z/VM you not only need to know how to *type* but also *think* the old shibboleth of IBM, which made it great, and which George Bernard Shaw claimed occurs among us only once or twice a year, though he claimed he could think once a week. GUI is *smoke and mirrors*, dream stuff. OTOH, Mainframe, *Green Screen*, or whatever is a real operating system which does the "thinking", really processing, since computers can't think, behind the GUI curtain. Jeff Gribbin <jeff.grib...@gmail.com> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/23/2010 07:54 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject The old VM/ESA CMS GUI - Does it still live? Greetings folks, Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that ship ped with VM/ESA 2.1 - and now I'm in a position where I might for the first t ime actually be able to configure a z/VM system to allow me to play with the beast, I got to wondering if it even still exists. The best I've been able to find in the way of IBM documentation is: http://www.vm.ibm.com/gui/ I found an interesting reference to a 2004 z/VM GUI project - http://web2.clarkson.edu/projects/cosi/zTeam/zvmgui/ but alas that seems to have since sunk without trace. So ... a few questions ... Anybody using it? Anybody prepared to admit they're using it? Anybody know if it's still maintained in any current form? This is purely a personal learning exercise triggered by the aforemention ed conversation and my recent exposure to young sysprogs (< 25 years old) wh o tend to love what CP and CMS can do but fall about laughing whenever the user interface is discussed. All comments gratefully received. Regards Jeff
