I think we can safely assume that since this discussion was about VM CMS that we're talking operating systems and interfaces to those OS's not applications as is your wife's case GUI's have their place, I personally do not believe that place is in an OS to manage it or it's subsystems where understanding what happens is very important.
I know DNS admins who can't manage their servers without GUI's. That to me is ridiculous and are admins who need to understand more about what they manage. Are they more productive maybe, are they dangerous, I leave that to you Think of this, what happens to those admins if their gui breaks and all they have is command line. William 'Doug' Carroll -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: The old VM/ESA CMS GUI - Does it still live? That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows the accounting systems that she uses via a GUI interface. In fact, the GUI represents an increase in productivity. I would suggest that if you do not know what you are doing, then you should not use either interface; if you do know, you should use whatever interface you choose. Rule Number 1 (Know what you are doing) applies. Regards, Richard Schuh > > You still type in your 3270 emulator, you still have to know > what you're doing. GUI's hide that from you > > Doug > This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities.