As far as getting the new z/OS PL/I compiler over to z/VM, I'd be happy
if IBM just offered it unsupported on CMS, with only a short bit of
documentation noting the differences between usage in the z/OS and CMS
environments, much like what IBM now does with the z/OS C/C++ port to CMS.

Any problems with the compiler would have to be recreated on z/OS before
IBM would take an APAR. I think that this approach might help make a
business case, as it would cut down on IBM's up front costs significantly.

Have a good one, too.

DJ

On 12/13/2010 08:40 AM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote:
> Ahhhhhh !!! D i s c o u r a g e m e n t
> 
> The devil's best tool.
> 
> I'm just grateful z/VM is still alive and well and getting stronger and 
> better every day especially with the advent of the z196 and that it is 
> only a question of time before the compiler issue will be addressed.
> 
> "I could say life is just a bowl of jello
>  And appear more intelligent and smart
>  But I'm stuck like a dope
>  With a thing called hope
> And I can't get it out of my heart
> Not this heart"
> 
>                                  Oscar Hammerstein
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> 
> David Boyes <[email protected]> 
> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 12/11/2010 10:13 AM
> Please respond to
> The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
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> To
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> On Dec 10, 2010, at 23:41, "George Henke/NYLIC" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> z/VM has LE ported over from z/OS. 
> 
> So things cannot be all that bad in the world of CMS compilers. 
> 
> 
> LE has two parts: the common libraries and the compilers that use them. 
> The libraries have been maintained, the compilers (with the exception of 
> C/C++) have not been made available on CMS.
> 
> So, yes, it really IS that bad. I understand why: no business case to do 
> the testing and doc, but isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy?
> 
> Sad. It's like having a dear relative on a life support machine. You 
> almost wish the doctor would finally tell you it's hopeless, so at least 
> you'd know.
> 
> -- db
> 
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> 

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544

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