I saw the same, or a similar problem a couple of years ago. It had
something to do with the terminal emulator I was using. I had the
problem with Vista emulator from Tom Brennan Software. Switching to a
different emulator for the 2nd level system cured it and after
installing an RSU or something, the problem went away and I could go
back to Vista.
Sorry, but I don't remember any details about the problem.
Jim
On 7/18/2011 12:14 PM, Mike Walter wrote:
Wolfgang,
That certainly helps! =20
Counting the number of lines, I see that your OPERATOR goes into HOLDING at=
the 30th displayed line:
17:19:36 HCPIOP952I 0064M system storage =20
Meanwhile, our OPERATOR continues on without HOLDING where the 36th message=
at logon (last night) was:
20:27:39 HCPIOP952I 15488M system storage =
=20
I'm guessing that on your system, the OPERATOR virtual machine had logged o=
n, but there was a timing "race" between the IPL messages being issued, and=
OPERATOR's "COMMAND" statement being processed as the virtual machine was =
being built and connected.
But then why does our OPERATOR consistently IPL (every week) without droppi=
ng into HOLDING? =20
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is because we being up OPERATOR on a model 4 term=
inal (42 lines x 80 wide). That may be permitting the 36+ lines to display=
before the PROFILE EXEC on our OPERATOR execute the command:
'CP TERMINAL MORE 15 0 HOLD OFF'
Note: that is not present in the directory as a COMMAND statement. Our OPE=
RATOR's directory COMMAND statements contain only:
COMMAND SPOOL CONSOLE * CLASS C START NAME OPERATOR CONSOLE=20
COMMAND SET SYSOPER * =20
Can you try again with a model 4 terminal for OPERATOR? There may be other=
ways to resolve this, but again, it can't hurt until a better solution is =
devised.
It might be worth opening a PMR with IBM requesting a means in SYSTEM CONFI=
G to force the IPL console into "TERMINAL HOLD OFF MORE n n" immediately, e=
ven before OPERATOR logs on.
Could this be a 2nd level system? That could present a whole different set=
of circumstances.
Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Beh=
alf Of Buettner, Wolfgang
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:26 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Behaviour after restart
Mike,
I have changed the COMMAND TERM statement as suggested ... unfortunately no=
thing has changed.
Meanwhile, our system
Here is that screen in question:
17:19:33 z/VM SYSTEM RESTART FROM SHUTDOWN REIPL =
=20
17:19:33 z/VM V6 R1.0 SERVICE LEVEL 1003 (64-BIT) =
=20
17:19:33 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2011-07-15 AT 17:54:28, LOADED FROM VZG=
61R =20
17:19:33 =
=20
17:19:33 **************************************************************** =
=20
17:19:33 * LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY OF IBM* * =
=20
17:19:33 * * =
=20
17:19:33 * 5741-A07 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1983, 2009. ALL RIGHTS * =
=20
17:19:33 * RESERVED. US GOVERNMENT USERS RESTRICTED RIGHTS - USE, * =
=20
17:19:33 * DUPLICATION OR DISCLOSURE RESTRICTED BY GSA ADP SCHEDULE * =
=20
17:19:33 * CONTRACT WITH IBM CORP. * =
=20
17:19:33 * * =
=20
17:19:33 * * TRADEMARK OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES. * =
=20
17:19:33 **************************************************************** =
=20
17:19:33 =
=20
17:19:33 HCPZCO6718I Using parm disk 1 on volume VZG61R (device 5364). =
=20
17:19:33 HCPZCO6718I Parm disk resides on cylinders 39 through 158. =
=20
17:19:33 The directory on volume VZG61R at address 5364 has been brought on=
line.
17:19:35 HCPWRS2513I =
=20
17:19:35 HCPWRS2513I Spool files available 575 =
=20
17:19:36 HCPWRS2512I Spooling initialization is complete. =
=20
17:19:36 DASD 5139 dump unit CP IPL pages 7696 =
=20
17:19:36 HCPAAU2700I System gateway DAEZ identified. =
=20
17:19:36 z/VM Version 6 Release 1.0, Service Level 1003 (64-bit), =
=20
17:19:36 built on IBM Virtualization Technology =
=20
17:19:36 There is no logmsg data =
=20
17:19:36 FILES: 0044 RDR, 0040 PRT, NO PUN =
=20
17:19:36 LOGON AT 17:19:36 CES MONDAY 07/18/11 =
=20
17:19:36 GRAF 0009 LOGON AS OPERATOR USERS =3D 1 =
=20
17:19:36 HCPIOP952I 0064M system storage =
=20
=
=20
HOLDING DAEZ =
=20
___________________________________________________________________________=
_____
The indented lines above appear highlighted on the screen.
Wolfgang
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Beh=
alf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 5:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Behaviour after restart
Wolfgang,
Can you copy/paste the held screen so that we have a better idea of which m=
essages might be causing the problem?
Could you change the CP directory entry's "COMMAND TERM HOLD OFF" to be "CO=
MMAND TERM HOLD OFF MORE 0 0"?=20
Then, in the OPERATOR's PROFILE EXEC change it to "CP TERM MORE n n" with m=
ore appropriate "MORE" times? =20
It's worth a try until we better understand the root cause.
Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Beh=
alf Of Buettner, Wolfgang
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:54 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Behaviour after restart
After a system restart=A0OPERATOR's console hangs on its very=A0first=A0scr=
een in HOLDING status (I guess=A0due to the fact that=A0some system=A0messa=
ges are highlighted) and is waiting until the screen is cleared manually. T=
hough=A0there is not any other prompt to be answered and the system itself=
=A0continues to start-up, that HOLDING=A0seems=A0to prevent=A0OPERATOR from=
loading CMS and/or starting its profile and other automatic processes=A0im=
mediately after the virtual machine OPERATOR was started by system.
=A0
It appears it's not yet the turn of=A0"COMMAND TERM HOLD OFF"=A0which=A0is =
defined=A0in=A0the CP Directory.
=A0
So, is there a CONFIG statement or anything else to manage that?
=A0
Thank you,
Wolfgang Buettner
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