> The members from the south don't seem to have a grasp of just what real
> frozen ground is!   ;o)


You're right Cheryl and that's why it's good for V to hear from folks
like you that deal with the much colder temps.  We couldn't dig fence
posts this summer with a tractor auger becasue the ground was too hard
from the drought.  That's why it's also good to talk to folks in your
area because they've been there.  I wouldn't be afraid to go up and
knock on a door and ask questions.  I did it here and ended up with
some nice friends as a result.  Once they realize you're not selling
anything, they are usually anxious to help.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa & Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang)

"When you're young and you fall off a horse, you may break something.
When you're my age and you fall off, you splatter" - Roy Rogers

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