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On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:07 PM, ayell wrote: > "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion" > Yeah.. i know that's the trigger > > "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??" > > But my point of view is: > "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??" > > Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about. > I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is. > And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here. > > > But my main problem is: > "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated > yourself > > No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc. > Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about. > > Salam > On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: >> The main problem is your "greedy" opinion >> For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself >> >> "Current choices: >> 1. RIM, Product: BB >> Service: BB partners >> Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator" >> >> If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ?? >> >> Moreover >> "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their >> service to customer.. monthly. >> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting >> bigger and bigger" >> >> Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, Apple >> by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share from >> purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for using the >> services they provide is greedy when they don't have another income sources >> ??? >> >> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> >> >> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57 >> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<id-android@googlegroups.com> >> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi >> Android >> >> Well, >> >> Quote: >> ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable >> than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS). >> " >> I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility >> and reliability. >> Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you. >> >> "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network >> quality here" >> I think i'm not as mobile as you are. >> No need to argue about local network quality >> >> "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services >> ask >> you for your money each months?? >> >> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on >> mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet. >> Then what's the different with BIS ??? " >> >> I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my >> quote on previous email: (see point 1) >> >> "Current choices: >> 1. RIM, Product: BB >> Service: BB partners >> Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator >> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer >> Service: Any operator that can provide internet >> Share: 100% local operator.. >> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer. >> Service: Any operator that can provide internet >> Share: 100% local operator.. " >> >> Can you see the difference?? >> Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of >> customer money. >> >> And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their >> service to customer.. monthly. >> They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and >> getting bigger and bigger >> >> On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: >>> Here's my opinion >> >>> So my question: >>> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month.. >>> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and >>> 100kBps download speed, maybe? >> >>> I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me >>> BIS is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's including >>> Android & iOS). >>> As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is 75% >>> on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I want >>> to browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my office or >>> home connection >> >>> Conclusion: >>> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask >>> you for your money each months?? >> >>> They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile u >>> pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with BIS ??? >> >>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> >> >>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com >>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21 >>> To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<id-android@googlegroups.com> >>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi >>> Android >> >>> well well >> >>> Gw bukan asal ngomong >>> Berikut jawaban gw. >> >>> Gw setuju ada service ada cost. >>> refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah : >>> 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan? >>> 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut? >>> 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan? >> >>> ok let me answer: >>> RIM >>> 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public >>> network.. not private network >>> 2. ~80k - 100k >>> 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim >>> service (whatt???) >> >>> Google/Apple >>> 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd >>> AWESOME apps & developer, tethering >>> ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community >>> 2. ~35k - 100k (carrier) >>> 3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost >>> anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free >> >>> Current choices: >>> 1. RIM, Product: BB >>> Service: BB partners >>> Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator >>> 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer >>> Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet >>> Share: 100% local operator.. >>> 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer. >>> Service: Any operator that can provide internet >>> Share: 100% local operator.. >> >>> So my question: >>> With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month.. >>> is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and >>> 100kBps download speed, maybe? >> >>> Conclusion: >>> is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask >>> you for your money each months?? >> >>> Well, itu jawaban gw. >> >>> Salam >> >>> On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: >>>> Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. >>>> RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga boleh >>>> charge ke pengguna ? >>>> Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ? >>>> Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan >>>> browsing via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable >>>> Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar >>>> segitu tarifnya >>>> Trus greedy dimananya coba ? >> >>>> To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "A.W. Wicak" <gadtorade...@gmail.com> >> >>>> Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com >>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53 >>>> To: <id-android@googlegroups.com> >>>> Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi >>>> Android >> >>>> Greedy? >> >>>> Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita >>>> putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw) >> >>>> Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini >>>> tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;) >> >>>> On 9/15/11, ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya.. >>>>> Ada license dan term agreement nya jg. >> >>>>> BBM?? >>>>> Nothing special about that. >> >>>>> Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw mau kasih duit >>>>> sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting. >> >>>>> On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama <rizky.prat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga boleh. >>>>>> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan >>>>>> punya >>>>>> google. 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