Ga ada yg salah dri apa yg lo bilang bro. Mungkin gw yg salah, gw minta maaf.
Love this milis karena bisa bertukar pikiran dgn banyak teman , right bro? On Sep 16, 3:32 pm, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: > Oke, kalau memang omongan saya dianggap salah saya minta maaf > > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> > > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:07:26 > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<id-android@googlegroups.com> > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi > Android > > "The main problem is your "greedy" opinion" > Yeah.. i know that's the trigger > > "For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ??" > > But my point of view is: > "If RIM is not greedy why should they ask x% to the operator ??" > > Well, i've said my argue about what i've been talk about. > I respect others people think/opinion/choosen... whatever it is. > And i'mt not trying to create public opinion or judgment here. > > But my main problem is: > "Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. " as you stated > yourself > > No matter if my argue is true/false, good/bad or agree/not etc. > Your answer of my quote proved that i know what i'm talking about. > > Salam > On Sep 16, 2:55 pm, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: > > The main problem is your "greedy" opinion > > For me RIM is not greedy, as you stated yourself > > > "Current choices: > > 1. RIM, Product: BB > > Service: BB partners > > Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator" > > > If RIM is greedy why should they give y% to the operator ?? > > > Moreover > > "And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their > > service to customer.. monthly. > > They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and getting > > bigger and bigger" > > > Those name have another source of income, e.g Google from advertising, > > Apple by selling their product (which have premium price IMO) and share > > from purchase in Appstore. Now what about RIM ??? Is charging user for > > using the services they provide is greedy when they don't have another > > income sources ??? > > > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> > > > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:50:57 > > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<id-android@googlegroups.com> > > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi > > Android > > > Well, > > > Quote: > > ".. I need the pushmail services which for me BIS is more reliable > > than other platform I used right now (that's including Android & iOS). > > " > > I trust Google Apps (for mail, map, doc etc) for speed, compatibility > > and reliability. > > Having all that gadget, BB, Android and iOS.. well good for you. > > > "my work is 75% on the road and we all know how good the network > > quality here" > > I think i'm not as mobile as you are. > > No need to argue about local network quality > > > "is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services > > ask > > you for your money each months?? > > > They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on > > mobile u pay the provider for mobile internet. > > Then what's the different with BIS ??? " > > > I thought you have answered your question by your self. Here's my > > quote on previous email: (see point 1) > > > "Current choices: > > 1. RIM, Product: BB > > Service: BB partners > > Share: x% for RIM, y% for local operator > > 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer > > Service: Any operator that can provide internet > > Share: 100% local operator.. > > 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer. > > Service: Any operator that can provide internet > > Share: 100% local operator.. " > > > Can you see the difference?? > > Google + Apple + (FB + Twitter) doesn't get any x% of share of > > customer money. > > > And yeah.. even they (Google, Apple, FB. Twitter) not charge their > > service to customer.. monthly. > > They can maintain their server with "daun".. keep inovating and > > getting bigger and bigger > > > On Sep 16, 1:25 pm, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: > > > Here's my opinion > > > > So my question: > > > With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month.. > > > is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and > > > 100kBps download speed, maybe? > > > > I don't use 4M Blackberry, and I need the pushmail services which for me > > > BIS is more reliable than other platform I used right now (that's > > > including Android & iOS). > > > As for browsing & DL speed, I seldom need 100kBps on mobile (my work is > > > 75% on the road and we all know how good the network quality here). If I > > > want to browse or get big files I will do that at the comfort of my > > > office or home connection > > > > Conclusion: > > > is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask > > > you for your money each months?? > > > > They don't ask for your money for sure. But in order to use it on mobile > > > u pay the provider for mobile internet. Then what's the different with > > > BIS ??? > > > > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> > > > > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:25:21 > > > To: [id-android] Indonesian Android Community<id-android@googlegroups.com> > > > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [id-android] Re: WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi > > > Android > > > > well well > > > > Gw bukan asal ngomong > > > Berikut jawaban gw. > > > > Gw setuju ada service ada cost. > > > refer ke dua paramater diatas, maka pertanyaan nya adlah : > > > 1. service2 apa saja yg diberikan? > > > 2. berapa cost total/per-tiap service tersebut? > > > 3. kepada siapa harga tersebut ditagihkan? > > > > ok let me answer: > > > RIM > > > 1. bbm, push mail, vpn?? talk about internet, talk about public > > > network.. not private network > > > 2. ~80k - 100k > > > 3. User.. can't bbm via free wifi, right? if doesn't subscribe to rim > > > service (whatt???) > > > > Google/Apple > > > 1. Maps, Push mail, Chat service (with VOICE & VIDEO.. ohh yeahh), 3rd > > > AWESOME apps & developer, tethering > > > ohh satu lagi.. awesome devices, ecosystem and community > > > 2. ~35k - 100k (carrier) > > > 3. free to User.. as long as Connected to internet, you can do almost > > > anything free on wifi.. yeahh anything with free > > > > Current choices: > > > 1. RIM, Product: BB > > > Service: BB partners > > > Share: x% for rim, y% for local operator > > > 2. Apple, Product: iDevice.. and Computer > > > Service: Wifi and/or Any operator that can provide internet > > > Share: 100% local operator.. > > > 3. Google, Product: Android phones... and Computer. > > > Service: Any operator that can provide internet > > > Share: 100% local operator.. > > > > So my question: > > > With RIM ~4jt device and service cost per month.. > > > is it "real internet services" you reach?? Browsing quality and > > > 100kBps download speed, maybe? > > > > Conclusion: > > > is Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter with their awesome services ask > > > you for your money each months?? > > > > Well, itu jawaban gw. > > > > Salam > > > > On Sep 16, 9:08 am, "Andi - leo5354" <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: > > > > Hmm, inilah kalau org ngga paham asal ngomong. > > > > RIM kan ada jaringan sendiri buat layanan pushmail sama BBM. Apa ga > > > > boleh charge ke pengguna ? > > > > Lantas maintenancenya bayar pake daun ? > > > > Lagian service bulanan yg paling mahal 100rb buat pushmail, bbm dan > > > > browsing via apn blackberry sepuasnya mah menurut saya reasonable > > > > Toh langganan paket unlimited GSM buat ngempanin robot ijo juga sekitar > > > > segitu tarifnya > > > > Trus greedy dimananya coba ? > > > > > To work, to sweat & to struggle is the enjoyment & achievement of life > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "A.W. Wicak" <gadtorade...@gmail.com> > > > > > Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:21:53 > > > > To: <id-android@googlegroups.com> > > > > Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [id-android] WTI: BlackBerry OS QNX Bisa Jalankan Aplikasi > > > > Android > > > > > Greedy? > > > > > Mungkin ga ngerasain benefit dr RIM yah waktu jaringan internet kita > > > > putus tapi cuman blackberry doang yg masih bisa konek (cmiiw) > > > > > Yang namanya layanan pasti ada harganya, klo skrg bbm disini > > > > tersendat2, salahin operatornya yg masih hobi perang tarif ;) > > > > > On 9/15/11, ayell <aryell.cae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Nope.. open source bukan berarti siapa aja bebas pake semaunya.. > > > > > Ada license dan term agreement nya jg. > > > > > > BBM?? > > > > > Nothing special about that. > > > > > > Klo pun ada bbm di port ke android, jihhh ga bakal gw mau kasih duit > > > > > sepeser pun duit gw ke RIM yg greedy itu cuman buat texting. > > > > > > On Sep 15, 2:16 pm, Rizki Pratama <rizky.prat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> Mau jalanin google app kan nggak musti bilang google. Siapa juga > > > > >> boleh. > > > > >> Google kan open source. The Lagian dalvik virtual machine juga bukan > > > > >> punya > > > > >> google. 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