On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:37 PM Scott Kitterman <ietf-d...@kitterman.com>
wrote:

>
> >>    1.  Do receivers keep tabs on which users are using things like
> >>    mailing lists to differentiate users who expect to get indirect mail
> vs
> >>    those who don't?
> >>
> >> The large mailbox operators might have hints about this, but I'm not
> sure
> >the answer would serve to further constrain the problem statement.
>
> I think it relates to the largest challenge to the problem statement: what
> distinguishes these 'bad' messages from 'good' indirect mail flows such as
> mailing lists.  As far as I can tell, the answer is nothing, which leaves
> it challenging to produce an effective protocol change which addresses
> replay that doesn't also have substantial side effects on non-replay
> traffic.
>

I agree, but:

Do you believe knowing the answer to this question would allow us to amend
the problem statement to something that might allow a protocol solution?
My point is that I don't think it would.

-MSK
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