On 8/8/25 00:39, Phillip Tao wrote:
So, I propose that unobtrusive signatures actually be built on the first part of that. Meaning, rather than wrapping the headers in a multipart mixed and signing that, attaching a header field that very closely mirrors the DKIM2 header field, and following the exact same mechanism to sign the body and selected headers.

See also the discussion we had during the past OpenPGP email summit:
https://www.openpgp.org/community/email-summit/2025/minutes/#cleartext-non-disturbing-signatures-in-headers-dkg

Here are two arguments that support inclusion of the end-to-end signature in the body:
* the DKIM signature then also covers the e2e signature,
  so it cannot be stripped without being noticed
* added mailing list footers break a DKIM-style signature,
  however, if the footer is added as a wrapper around the body
  (additional MIME layer added), then the inner signed part
  can be clearly identified and could still be validated.

Kai

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