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> From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-
> boun...@mipassoc.org] On Behalf Of Brett McDowell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:46 PM
> To: John R. Levine
> Cc: DKIM List
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] list vs contributor signatures, was Wrong
> Discussion
> 

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> 
> What surprises me is how our efforts have been received by the
community
> who produced these standards in the first place.
> 
> 

Brett, I'm sorry you are surprised. 

This space has been contentious going back something like 10 years (or
more). Many of the participants go at it tong and hammer but we can
still sit down for dinner or a drink at the usual gatherings.

Truth be told, the Financial sector (including PayPal) as well as other
key groups have been pretty much MIA from a lot of the discussions for a
long time. Many of the points of contention have been discussed ad
nauseum over the years without resolution or through compromises that
gave us crippled outcomes like ADSP.

Actually, IETF has been somewhat mild compared to MARID <G>.

Mike

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