> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:12 PM
> To: Murray S. Kucherawy; ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-08.txt
> 
> >> "such as a signing and author subdomain {DKIM 12}" -> "such as a signing
> >> and author subdomain {DKIM 12} or a totally different domain"
> >
> >I'm on the fence on this one.  Does anyone else have an opinion?
> 
> It is a best practice document so the full realm of possibilities should
> be included.

It doesn't make general sense to list all possibilities in something that's 
supposed to espouse a best practice.  Although you're right that it could be 
any domain, I think the best practice when it comes to creating mail streams is 
the subdomain option.

> >Do you have some specific text you want to propose here?  I couldn't
> >imagine any based on this comment.
> 
> Yes it is hard, because we don't want to endorse any product/service. Let
> me try.
> 
> "Some MTA senders and receivers can enter in bilateral agreements or via a
> third party to receive out of band reports on failed signatures."

That's true, but is it advice specific to the MLM environment?  And is 5.2 the 
right place to talk about this?

> >> 5.3 postmaster should inform their users that messages are likely to be
> >> discarded if sent via a MLM.
> >
> >Is this inbound or outbound?  I assume inbound given the title of the
> >section.  But again I couldn't concoct text in my head to match your
> >remark.  Can you propose some?
> 
> I thinking outbound. As this document is to give postmasters a quick
> start, then it is good to mention if you choose ADSP, there is "no way"
> the message can go via a mailing list and survive. I thought it was
> possible before reading this RFC that you could tweak a MLM in a manner
> that ADSP would not break, but I realize while possible it is absolutely
> impractical and as you say a cooperating MLM better drop the message out
> front.
> 
> What I'm worried is that it does not set a mindset with other email
> policies that can be created.

I think it's safer to let the MLM operator decide, since that person knows 
whether or not the list software will tend to break signatures on messages it 
re-sends.

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