I fully agree with you Shuvam. Incidently, I call people who still insist on using 10yr old technology when new (and sometimes tools are available as not purists but just "old". This phenomenon outside technical realm is typically termed as "generation gap" ;-)
In any case, I have done what I should have done in the first place. The websheet is now currently available from my website at : http://www.tarunupadhyay.com/writings/sw/Enterprise%20Software%20Stack%20acr oss%20operating%20Systems.html (I know somebody is going to balk at the long name - but you are not supposed to type it, dude) I invite people to: A) suggest any services I might have missed (I am sure there are many) which are widely (defined as >25%) used by enterprise organizations (defined as >200 employees) B) I have marked in blue what I think are best product by "PHB-definition". Please point out any errors there as well. (hint: don't just scream your dearling product is the best just because you are in love with it or it has X feature that no other product has. Consider what will *your PHB" boss buy if he has no technical advise available and infinite money (for software, not hardware) ). In general, the idea is to find out where is OSS behind the other commerical alternatives in providing a complete IT services stack to a medium (or large) sized enterprise. So, once, we got this list to near completion and accuracy - the next step would be to look at what are the essential features missing in today's "OSS-stack". Thanks Tarun -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shuvam Misra Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:15 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: RE: [ilugd] Enterprise Software Stack across operating Systems I've I've just witnessed a hot debate in the ILUG Bombay mailing list about whether HTML mail should be banned. I protested, saying that some kinds of formatted text simply cannot be read unless you allow formats other than plain text. Most others didn't agree; they appeared to be purists who wanted only plain text. Your (very useful, incidentally) table is a clear example of something which needs a MIME type other than text/plain. I simply cannot make head or tail of your table, because the lines are wrapping badly. And this list will not allow attachments, and probably will not allow non-text messages too. If you have a copy in HTML or spreadsheet format, can you please send it to me directly by email? <rant> When the going gets tough, the only way out seems to be to find workarounds around all those well-meaning "standards", "norms" and "rules." For instance, I have a Windows partition with MS Office 2000 on my laptop. Can't do without it when it comes to handing over a presentation at a black-suited apex-level corporate conference... OOo simply doesn't generate PPTs compatible enough, and PDF presentations (done using the excellent pdfscreen package in LaTeX) are too plain looking for some audiences. Finally, no one gives you anything because you followed standards, they only appreciate your work if you get the job done. Sigh... </rant> :) Shuvam On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Tarun Upadhyay wrote: > All right. All right. I figured out the hard way that I cannot send > attachments to the list. So here it is as inline text. > > Microsoft OSS > Commercial Unix > > Kernel / Base OS Windows 2003 Linux, BSD > AIX, Solaris > > Authentication and Authorization,SSO Active Directory OpenLDAP > NDS, sunOne > > File Services > -volume management Volume Manager LVM > VeritasManager > -distributed DFS Samba, NFS (Client > mode) NFS, AFS > > Database SQL Server Postgres, mysql > Oracle > > Network Services > -VPN, Firewalling PPTP, ICF, ISA PPP, S/WAN, iptables > Checkpoint > -Routing, WAN RAS, ICS iproute2 > cisco routers > -DNS Active Directory bind > ? > -Mail Exchange Sendmail, Qmail > sunOne messaging > +HTTP Services > -Application Server IIS, MSMQ, COM+ Tomcat, Jboss, > Apache Weblogic,MQSeries > -Proxy Server ISA Squid > iPlanet ? > -Content Management, Portals CMS Wiki? > Plum Tree > > Application Frameworks .NET J2EE > J2EE > > Network Management SMS,MOM OpenNMS > Tivoli, OpenView > > Collaboration Exchange + Outlook ? > Domino > > Business Integration BizTalk ? > WebMethods,Vitria > > Let me know your opinions please. > > Thanks > Tarun > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tarun Upadhyay > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:31 PM > To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' > Subject: RE: [ilugd] Enterprise Software Stack across operating > Systems ? > > > Ooops. Forgot to attach the list. > Here it comes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tarun Dua > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:57 AM > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Enterprise Software Stack across operating > Systems ? > > > On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 03:35, Tarun Upadhyay wrote: > > Alright, all sysadmins and PHBs. > I am only an ignorant self-proclaimed sysadmin who is a PHB by the > way. > > I would welcome any opinions on (yeah my asbestos suit is on): > > A) any services/features/products that I might have missed. (which > > estimatedely are used in at least 25% of enterprises) > > B) any information that you think is factually incorrect in the > > sheet. > The sheet is invisible to me as well. Can you post the link to it. > -Tarun Dua http://www.tarundua.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > ilugd mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > > > > _______________________________________________ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd _______________________________________________ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
