On 2/8/07, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Excellent.

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> On Thursday 08 February 2007 17:48, Anupam Jain wrote:
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> > You meant to be satirical but I think your suggestion is an
> > excellent one! Well during election times do you see people being
> > asked to come to Delhi and visit the Rashtrapati Bhavan in case
> > they want to be a part of the electoral process? Before taking any
> > decision, you do not take a decision and "inform" the members of
> > the same, you give the members the details of the situation and
> > "ask" for their opinion and continue to do so until some semblance
> > of a consensus on a possible course of action emerges. Especially
> > for ILUGD which started out as a mailing list, why have voting /
> > decision-making behind closed doors. It's not very difficult to
> > have an online voting setup, why don't we have that?
>
> There is no decision-making behind closed doors.  Just because we
> didn't send a goddam chauffeur-driven limousine to your door to pick
> you up, bring you to the meetings that were announced on the list and
> solicit your valuable opinion doesn't mean that decisions were made
> behind closed doors, however much you may try to twist what everyone
> is saying to suit your own warped view of reality.  I'd suggest you
> put up (substantiate what you're saying) or shut up; in other words,
> kindly shut up, since I can see no possible way you could manufacture
> any proof that ILUGD is acting in an undemocratic fashion.

I don't need to substantiate anything. I never said that ILUGD was
undemocratic. My hypothesis was a very weak one, namely ILUGD could do
with having more openness. Anything in the world could do with more
openness so it is not really something you would oppose. If you
misread between the lines so far as to see allegations of undemocratic
behaviour then it is your warped view of reality, not mine. Now that
we have established that my "allegations" were not really so, I stand
by whatever I said fully because I did not see a public discussion on
this topic *before* the event. It may have been due to valid reasons
(you say you had only a day to respond, which is a very valid reason)
but the fact remains.

And it is not really relevant but I have been living in Bangalore for
over a year now (and many places elsewhere the year before that). So
it is not really possible for me to be a part of the meetings anymore.
I'm not sure if that fact makes me a "lesser" member of the ILUGD
community, but I'd appreciate it if more things were kept on the
mailing list.

Regards,
Anupam Jain

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