> From: Donald Keenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yeah, I am confused about the power issue. On the one hand, I thought
> usb peripherals didn't need the support of a hub and I thought the
> wording on the box of the superdisk implied that it didn't need an
> additional source of power to operate. When I bought it from the Apple
> store, the marketing of the product implied that one simply plugged it
> in and voila, it works. So I was naive on that account.

You weren't naive, Apple was naive. The superdisk SHOULD work exactly 
as you describe, but it's just a badly-designed product that draws more 
power than it should in some situations, causing problems. Hopefully 
future versions of the OS will find a more graceful way of dealing with 
this phenomenon.

I suspect that the problem is that Superdisk's power requirements from 
the USB bus fall close to the maximum. The manufacturers forgot to 
account for the idea that some other power-drawing devices (like the 
mouse) might be on the same bus. This is JUST a theory, not fact, but 
it neatly explains the problem.

What I see happen a lot is that people tend to plug in SEVERAL 
self-powered devices into their Macs (or an unpowered hub) and get 
confused/angry when they don't work right. The USB bus can only hand 
out a finite (and rather small) amount of power, and apparently doesn't 
handle overdemand very well at all.

> I also thought that the purpose of usb hubs was to give  one more ports
> and didn't realize that they are necessary as an intermediary device to
> power devices so that one could use the ports already built into the
> computer.

No, that's not correct. Powered USB hubs are needed to give one more 
ports and to provide additional power for "self-powered" devices. See 
the paragraph above, there is only a finite amount of power that can 
travel on a USB bus.

>  The impression I've had is that people could even daisy chain
> devices without a hitch.

You can, if they are not "self-powered."

> seems to suggest I won't be able to use those ports without the
> support of a hub for anything more than my keyboard itself and the
> mouse.

No, that's not true. Lots of devices (even self-powered ones) work fine 
connected directly to the Mac's USB ports or the keyboard "extra" port 
-- just not the SmartDisk, apparently.

> And now I suspect that the same is true
> of firewire ports?

Definitely not. Let me put it this way:

Intel created the USB port. Apple designed the Firewire port.

Guess which one has fewer problems?

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