Jordan Dorf
President/CEO
TeraLynx Consulting Partners, LLC
Is alleged to have written:
> Geez, this crap almost sounds like it came straight from the MS web site!
> "Far more than a better way of doing e-mail"? What planet are you from?
I am from planet earth. I am a system administrator at a large University.
I run Exchange. We have 26,000 mailboxes. I also am an ISP with 90 domains,
there I run Imail. My statements rest on their own merit, I do not have to
resort to personal attacks to make a point.
> I've deployed both IMail and Exchange (5.0 and 5.5 on the
> latter), and I can
> tell you from experience that Exchange doesn't live up to its claims.
I also run IMail and Exchange. I know both. As far as Exchange not living
up to claims, would you care to be specific.
> In particular, from what I've seen, smaller organizations - which I define
> as 1000 users or under - can benefit a lot more from an in-house IMail
> server and any one of the free calendar, collaboration, etc. services that
> are offered by various Web sites.
Name one that does what Exchange does.
There are so many of these "groupware"
> products being offered for free these days, it's hardly worthwhile to take
> them all in-house, especially when they cause your mail server to choke.
My mail server does not choke. Again, be specific. Name a product that will
allow you to schedule a meeting with 60 people in two minutes, after having
checked all their calendars for an open slot.
>
> Now, before you MS robot-puppets start flaming me, I should let you know
> that in my former life, working for a Fortune 100 telco, I did many more
> Exchange deployments that IMail deployments.
I will nominate you for a medal.
In fact, I only
> came to IMail
> when I started my own company. What I've found, when comparing the two
> SIDE-BY-SIDE, on IDENTICAL MACHINES, is that:
They are not identical products, why compare them on identical machines? No
one is saying that IMail is in the same league as Exchange. They are totally
different products serving different markets.
>
> * Exchange takes far longer to reboot, and to recover from
> service failures;
Who is racing to reboot? I go months and months and do not reboot Exchange.
> * Exchange needs to be rebooted more often;
Not so.... perhaps you were not a competant administrator.
> * Exchange needs a dedicated, trained IS staff for it to work
> consistently;
Trainded yes, dedicated no. So does IMail. Running e-mail is not for the
gardener.
> * MS support is crap, and they routinely deny that their products are the
> cause of whatever issue you're having;
Then why are you running NT? You should be running PMDF or SendMail on
UNIX.
> * Just about anyone can install and configure an IMail server in less than
> an hour; and
Yes, you can bake a muffin in 10 minutes. A wedding cake takes longer. If
all you want is a muffin, then that is fine.
> * After extensive training, most MCSEs still can't manage to install and
> configure an Exchange server that doesn't fail repeatedly.
Is this comment is based on your own personal life or what body of research?
Please support your claim.
>
> Now, make no mistake about it... if you want to wrap IMail in a groupware
> solution, you'll have to get some additional products, and you'll
> have to do
> a bunch of custom programming. If you're up to the challenge,
> perhaps you -
> unlike the folks in Redmond, WA - can create a system that works.
Why reinvent the wheel. If you want Groupware buy Exchange. If you want a
great mail system for hundreds of unrelatd clients on multiple domains, buy
IMail. They both have a place. But, don't trash either because you do not
understand the products.
>
> There's my 2 cents... don't spend it all in one place.
Sorry, it was not quite worth that much.
I see that you are a "consultant." A consultant is someone who uses your
watch to tell you what time it is.
Walt
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