Mike,

Well, if you have a few thousand or less users, the CPU is probably not very
busy. However, IMail and NT can be rather disk intensive, especially if
mailboxes are large (above 50 meg). With 256M RAM, I think you might see
some disk thrashing if mailboxes exceed 128M. If you do not have any mailbox
size limits, I'd go looking for 'main.mbx' files above 50 meg and see what
you find. If they happen to match the users having problem, great. While
looking for files, I'd check all user folders for large files (they may have
other mailboxes).

Sorry, I do not know of a way to have Task Manager or PerfMon record its
data. Does not mean there is not a way, I just don't know it. Yes, if there
is some great increase in CPU or memory usage, that could be a clue.

If your customer is having the problem and talking to you while it exists,
I'd open the telnet program and try to connect to SMTP and POP3 ports to see
if you can connect and how long it takes to establish the connection.
Anything under a few seconds (say 5-10) should not pose a problem to the
client program. Do this from the Server console and you eliminate the
network. Do it from your local network and you eliminate other portions of
the network. If you can access fine from the consol and local network and
they cannot from outside, that leads me to think it is a network problem.

Daniel Donnelly
Ipswitch Technical Support
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pippin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Socket Errors


> Thanks for the comments Daniel. I have asked those users having timeout
> problems to increase their Outlook Express to 60 seconds but it doesn't
not
> seem to cure the problem. I have wondered if the CPU is too busy to handle
> the load. (It is a PIII 500 w/256MB) How can I get stats on the CPU usage
at
> the time of trouble? I have been asking users to send me the time the
> timeout occured so I can look at the server logs to see if the log file
> records a 10 or 11K error around that time. If a user would immediately
send
> me notice that a timeout occurred, then I could look at the history graph
in
> the task manager. Is there a way to record a history of the CPU usage
> automatically into a file? What about NT Performance Monitor? Could this
> help? At this point, I have been asking user to try, try again when they
get
> a timeout so I really haven't done anything to "fix" the problem.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Socket Errors
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Winsock errors (those 10 and 11K numbers you see) mean that problems are
> happening below the application level (the Windows Socket or TCPIP stack).
> Interestingly, IMail reports a 100054, which means the remote end was
> connected, then disconnected (the client) and the Client reports it 'timed
> out' in trying to establish the connection. These do sound like network
> related problems to me.
>
> For the client side, I would recommend that any timeouts be at least 60
> seconds.
>
> What do you currently do now, to 'fix' this problem? Does it go away 'by
> itself'? Is the CPU busy during these times of reduced access? If so, what
> process(es) is using CPU cycles?
>
> Daniel Donnelly
> Ipswitch Technical Support
> ________________________________________________________
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Pippin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Socket Errors
>
>
> > This problem happens to all users, DSL, dialup and direct connects.
Thanks
> > for the suggestion, but it can't be a port 25 blocking problem. It is
also
> > an intermittant problem and most of the time it doesn't happen.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rocky Rapson
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 11:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Socket Errors
> >
> >
> > Are these customers dialed directly into your network or connecting
> through
> > some other ISP?  This looks like the problem caused when an ISP blocks
> port
> > 25 on their network so that their users must use their outbound mail
> server.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Pippin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 9:38 AM
> > Subject: [IMail Forum] Socket Errors
> >
> >
> > I am getting "No Socket Errors" complaints from many different customers
> on
> > a frequent basis (see example below). I also see these types of errors
in
> > the SMTP log about every few minutes. It usually says "SMTP error 10054"
> in
> > the log. I have searched the Knowledge Base on this and have followed
> their
> > advice. The advice in the Knowledge Base suggested to turn off the
> > "automated restart server" command if using SMTP Monitoring but it did
not
> > help. Any suggestions?
> > The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'Jill's WBC Email',
> > Server: 'mail.expressramp.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
No,
> > Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >
> >
> >
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