Looks like most ISPs are moving this way.  The objective, I believe, is to 
prevent dial-up users from sending mail direct (ala Maps DUL) and for the 
ISP to have the advantage of mail logs.

We are primarily a web hosting company.  Most of our customers use their 
ISP's smtp and configure their client with a reply address of their domain 
name.  Most of that mail is merely forwarded to their existing pop at their 
ISP.

It hasn't been a problem here, since we started in 1995.

At 08:43 AM 11/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > Is there a way to make IMail listen on multiple ports for SMTP?
> > Some ISP's block 25 (Earthlink) and I cannot get through, any
> > other ideas for a workaround?
>
>First is to suggest that your users get a real ISP that offers full Internet
>access.  Any ISP that blocks port 25 (and can't unblock it on request), no
>matter how noble the intent, doesn't provide full Internet access.  They
>provide restricted, censored Internet access.  For many people it is fine,
>but for others (as you know) it is completely unacceptable.  You shouldn't
>have to play games on your mail server because of a few rotten Earthlink
>customers.  The flaw in Earthlink's theory of blocking port 25 is that many
>legitimate customers will need to send mail using another server.  Those
>mail servers will open up ports other than 25, and then spammers will
>eventually find them be able to use Earthlink to hijack the mail server.
>
>Anyways, in real life, there's a good chance you can't get (or can't
>suggest) your customers to switch ISPs.  In that case, you could set up a
>separate mail server that uses a different port.  Or, there are SSL
>tunnelling programs that would allow you to set up, for example, port 465 to
>be an "SSL version" of port 25.  Any connections to port 465 would use SSL,
>but the SSL tunnelling software would connect internally to port 25.  This
>would allow users to connect to a different port on your server, but they
>would have to use SSL.  Most new mail clients allow SSL connections.  There
>will be some extra CPU overhead, though.
>                                       -Scott
>
>Declude: Anti-spam and Anti-virus solutions for IMail.
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>
>
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