It's all well and good that the big companies are trying to stop spammers
but I just got about my 4th out a of a weekly dozen offers for some spam
company that will let me subscribe and post all my spam through them. They
call it bullet proof since my hosting company will not know about it since
it isn't going through their servers and they will not be getting the
complaints (Hope they rot in hell). Hopefully Imail and every other email
program out there will ad MAPS and ORBS support that will put these guys out
of business. Then if MSN would reconfigure it's servers we might actually
see a decrease in spam on the net.
Kevin Childers
----- Original Message -----
From: "horizons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Multiple SMTP ports?
> > We are primarily a web hosting company. Most of our customers use
> > their ISP's smtp... It hasn't been a problem here, since we
> > started in 1995.
>
> In your case it isn't a problem. But, remember the poor company that has
roaming users. Is it OK for the CEO has to send mail as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> The idea was a good one (it makes it harder for spammers to use these
ISPs). But...
>
> > The major benefit of them limiting what servers the users can
> > send mail through is that it keeps them from sending mail
> > through a server that is an open mail relay.
>
> True. But, many companies can't play this port 25 game, and *must* let
their employees access their mail server. The roaming employees with ISPs
that don't offer full Internet access (the ones blocking port 25) force the
company to [1] Devote time and money to making a hack to get around this
problem, and [2] Making maintainance more difficult (maintaining 2 ports
instead of 1), and [3] making their server a bit less secure.
>
> Once the companies are forced to open other ports, the spammers are going
to find those ports. Now these ISPs are going to start blocking the SSL
SMTP port, and ports 26 and 2525. Now, the small business is going to have
to pick a random port to get around this. Then, the spammers are going to
start using port scanning tools, and hacking more. That's not the best
thing to happen.
>
> The ISP is simply lowering their costs at the expense of the small
business.
>
> Also, we can add AT&T to the list of ISPs that play this game.
> -Scott
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