>Orbs blows.
>ORBS are Net Nazis

Let me guess, you people are listed on ORBS?  Just close your relay, and you will get 
off.

FYI, as far as I know, ORBS was NOT designed as a system to DELETE or BLOCK E-mail 
from open relays.  It was designed to LET PEOPLE KNOW that open relays exist.  They 
are simply trying to stop open relays.

What is the problem with, for example, adding a header to an E-mail that says "[This 
E-mail came from an open relay in ORBS]"?  That way, the user can decide what they 
want to do with the E-mail.  And, the amount of spam YOU receive will go down, because 
more people will close their relays, giving spammers fewer places to spew.

The main reason people complain about ORBS so much is because they are listed in it.  
If you are listed in it, you are inviting spammers to abuse your mail server, and you 
need to fix it.

Remember, ORBS also has a number of different databases.  I have *NEVER* heard anyone 
complain about their "Spam Source" database, for example, that ONLY lists known spam 
sources.

ORBS isn't bad; the people who abuse it (by deleting E-mail coming from IPs listed in 
ORBS) are.  Just use ORBS in a way that lets the END USER decide how to handle the 
E-mail.


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                      -Scott

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