----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Where Did My Bounce Go?


> Hey Dan,
>
> Pretty pathetic flame really, you're meant to be both knowledgeable
> and witty,

who told you that? I was under the impression that you just annoyed me, for
general assumption and failing to read your cited sources properly.

> Just another quick question.
>
> Why is it that all these admins who use Imail can configure it to
> reject NULL senders but can't configure it back again?

Dunno, ask them and find out. I can tell you that mine accepts bounce
messages (unless somene has been playing with it since I last checked

> I sorta
> assumed that it must be because its a default setting.

Ah, "assumed"

> And of course I ask the admins of Imail systems to configure their
> MTAs so they accept bounces. But it seems to be beyond them, thats
> sorta why I assumed that Imail is for neophytes.

Hmm, "assumed" again

> I have unconfigured one Imail system which was rejecting NULL
> senders (the only Imail system I've ever touched) and it seemed
> to be way too easy to configure it to reject NULL senders. It
> seems a lot of admins have no idea so allowing them to do something
> which causes problems so easily is a BAD idea.

Out of how many Imail installations in total (there are hods of them) have
this problem? I don't know, but I am sure that it is quite small. But lets
look at other aspects of Imail, such as "postmaster@" always exists and
can't IIRC, be deleted, as opposed to some other systems where they have to
be added manually, and clueless admiins don't. Swings and roundabouts

> PS I dont think that the RFCs touch on admins who mess with
> settings maybe you can point that one out. Or is that an RTFM
> that you are alluding to?

Yeah, probably. I had a link to an MS knowledge base spoof somewhere but I
can't find it at the moment. I think it may have been posted here a few
weeks ago

> PPS Aren't the RFCs there to be used and cited?

I would have said there to be used when writing the software, configuring
etc. What I meant was people blowing off "RFC this and RFC that" I know, you
know a lot of people here know (or will do soon, as members of this list,
for the most part, seem to be clued in, and generally gather cluons fairly
rapidly)

> PPPS I am pissed off. (Can't you tell?)

Me too, see my post a few minutes ago in reply to the mad scientist



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