I would like to add that many T-1 lines have rDNS entries "lumped"
together with DSL.  Our ISP (which is not exactly a "small" ISP) returns
a standard rDNS response for every IP they own (and give to their
customers).  They all contain the three letters "DSL".  So we are
getting caught up in this storm and are on a T-1.

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV  USA
www.xidix.com


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: AOL's got nerve


>BUT -- please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed as though this
blocking
>wasn't even necessarily by the use of a DSL line -- isn't it blocking
by 
>what a
>company has decided to use as a *name* in their DNS entry (or reverse
DNS
>entry)?

Close.  It seems that they are blocking on any reverse DNS entry with
"dsl" 
in it (and likely others, such as "cable", "pool", etc.).

However, one of the biggest issues is that there are a lot of small 
businesses and organizations that have a business class connection using

DSL, cable, or a 24x7 dialup connection, but do *not* have control over
the 
reverse DNS entry.  The RFCs (depending on how you read them) require a 
reverse DNS entry, but don't specify what it has to be or whether or not

anyone should have control over it.  As one person pointed out, though,
AOL 
has the right to decide to block such E-mail.

My main reason for staying in the discussion wasn't to say that AOL is 
wrong; it was to dissuade others from following AOL's lead (by pointing
out 
that 2.5% of our legitimate E-mail comes from mailservers with "cable", 
"dsl", etc. in the reverse DNS entries).

>So that AOL/whoever is now trying to dictate naming conventions?  If
so, I 
>really REALLY hate
>this idea . . .

Agreed.  I'm just glad that [1] Our IP doesn't have some of the more 
popular keywords in it, and [2] We send very, very little to AOL.

I *do* like the idea of coming out with a new RFC or de-facto standard
to 
"force" Internet providers into either [1] Allowing vanity reverse DNS 
entries for all their business class customers, or [2] Distinguishing in

the reverse DNS entry between residential and business accounts.  But 
suddenly imposing this without any warning -- well, that just causes
people 
to get upset.  :)

                                                    -Scott
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