Thanks, Len.  You just insulted a lot of people on this list.  We're not
incompetent b/c we don't run our own DNS, just not DNS experts (or have
the $$).  That does not mean that we don't know how to run a mail
server.  I like to think that makes us intelligent to know our limits
(knowledge and $$) and find someone else to do it.

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV  USA
www.xidix.com


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>1. They won't delegate rDNS to us.
>2. Relaying outbound through the provider just adds another link in the
>chain, potentially adding delivery delays, debugging problems, etc.  I
>don't know many admins that would choose this method.

ok, let's put this in perspective.

Where are the most probable spots for SMTP delivery failures? I would
say, 
it order of strongest link:

1. ISPs SMTP gateway (very important to him, as is his DNS, must keep it

running, must have skilled staff to run it, and it is probably NOT his 
mailbox server, but just an SMTP relay, so very simple comparatively)

2. The garden variety SME with his own mailserver.  No competence in
house 
in mail, smtp, dns, routing, mail is blackbox, "we hope it 
works".  Probably shoots himself in his mail foot more often than all of

Internet.

3. the rest of Internet

So I'm sure relaying through 1. above will be the last cause of SMTP 
deliveries failures.

Len

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