Actually, your Postal mail theory isn't valid.  Try getting a mailing
machine.  Your system is assigned a zip code (the one you mail from).  That
is printed on your envelopes with the postage.  Now try going to another
state and dropping that mail in a mail box.  I can guarantee you that the
post office is going to be all over you in a second.  e-mail is really no
different, try sending using a forged/invalid helo, and you are denied
immediately.  Fix YOUR problem (obviously a problem) and there is no trouble
sending and e-mail.


Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lewis-Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Anyone have any experiences with Postini ?


> >Is that fact that if an IMGate machine uses the ORDB test to block mail
> (or RFC Ignorant, etc), 1 test, not a weight, it isn't a false positive.
> The sender is actually in ORDB (whether they know it or not, and whether
> the e-mail attempted to be sent was legit or not).  In my eyes that is
> not a false positive.  Sure they may be upset that their e-mail didn't
> get delivered, but they should direct that anger at the sending mail
> servers admin for not knowing what they are doing (most cases).
>
> It is a false postive if the recipient expects to be able to receive
> mail from the sender. It means that a test is being employed that is not
> trust worthy. You're looking at it from the admin point of view (that's
> not a criticism) and not from the recipients point of view.
>
> Mail admins should/must take on the resposibility of handling other
> email in the same way the postoffice are obliged to deliver smail mail
> even if they know it just a pile of junk mail. In most countries unless
> it actually endangers property or life then the post office is obliged
> by law to deliver all mail regardless of content or where it comes from.
> Are we so different?
>
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