(sorry for the double post)

Also, try dropping me a letter that has pictures of women being gang  raped
by horses, and under age children having   sex  with  old men, or illegal
medications, and I can bet you will be spending the next 20 years in prison.
The postal mail system has other alternatives than filtering/blocking known
obscene and illegal mail, we don't.

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Newland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Anyone have any experiences with Postini ?


> Actually, your Postal mail theory isn't valid.  Try getting a mailing
> machine.  Your system is assigned a zip code (the one you mail from).
That
> is printed on your envelopes with the postage.  Now try going to another
> state and dropping that mail in a mail box.  I can guarantee you that the
> post office is going to be all over you in a second.  e-mail is really no
> different, try sending using a forged/invalid helo, and you are denied
> immediately.  Fix YOUR problem (obviously a problem) and there is no
trouble
> sending and e-mail.
>
>
> Jason
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lewis-Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Anyone have any experiences with Postini ?
>
>
> > >Is that fact that if an IMGate machine uses the ORDB test to block mail
> > (or RFC Ignorant, etc), 1 test, not a weight, it isn't a false positive.
> > The sender is actually in ORDB (whether they know it or not, and whether
> > the e-mail attempted to be sent was legit or not).  In my eyes that is
> > not a false positive.  Sure they may be upset that their e-mail didn't
> > get delivered, but they should direct that anger at the sending mail
> > servers admin for not knowing what they are doing (most cases).
> >
> > It is a false postive if the recipient expects to be able to receive
> > mail from the sender. It means that a test is being employed that is not
> > trust worthy. You're looking at it from the admin point of view (that's
> > not a criticism) and not from the recipients point of view.
> >
> > Mail admins should/must take on the resposibility of handling other
> > email in the same way the postoffice are obliged to deliver smail mail
> > even if they know it just a pile of junk mail. In most countries unless
> > it actually endangers property or life then the post office is obliged
> > by law to deliver all mail regardless of content or where it comes from.
> > Are we so different?
> >
> >
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