Quote from ASTA press release:
"The zombie problem, said representatives of the group, is going largely UNCHECKED because other Internet providers ARE NOT TAKING SUCH ACTION."
Did any of these people acknowledge that THEY are part of the problem?
Let's see:
yahoo aol.com earhtlink ms/msn
For one large west coast mailbox provider where I run greylisting on their MX, there have been 37K unique IPs greylisted (greylist behavior being a good, if incomplete, indicator of zombie mailers) over the preceding 3 days.
Of those 37K, here are the counts by ASTA domain name:
ipt.aol.com 496 (AOL subcriber PTR)
yahoo.com 6
earthlink.net 44
msn.com 4
microsoft.com 3
sbc.com 3
so the ASTA first movers are not big zombie-as-greylisted violators. Now, for the real culprits:
charter 917 comcast 2609 verizon 1858 rr.com 989 attbi 700 adelphia 439 mindspring 272 net.br and com.br 2168 net.br and com.ar 347 hinet 410 bellsouth 268 mchsi 148 telus 247 videotron 261 pacbell 1026 ameritech 925 swbell 924 shawcable 679 etc....
So I would say the nets which those 4 ASTA members are running are not that big of a problem, while cable/dsl/dialup networks dominate.
Why didn't they take the gloves off
They're corps with huge legal departments. You won't get much teeth in their bite, if they ever get beyond the barking.
What we want to hear is that 1 to 4 of these biggies block all of rr.com, or attbi.com or verizon, etc, etc. THEN the bite would be on.
A little negative press goes a long way. I mean come on. How many times have we heard "There is a problem with spam, we are going to try and do something about it." ?
exactly. ASTA is clearly an movement of exasperation. That's why Scottt's multi-month contact+warn approach is just silly at this point.
BS, let everyone know that it's Comcast, Swbell, At&t, and the other mega companies that have no clue how to properly police a network.
don't assume they don't have a clue. I assume they have the means, but it costs to implement, and right now, it's NOT costing them anything NOT to implement policing.
ASTA's punitive "block 'em" is intended to make not policing their networks a very costly, and publicly negative, stance.
Len
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