Sandy,

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like I have been wrongly
assuming that the reason for the rejection was the domain name showing
up in the email envelope/header whereas if i understand you correctly,
the remote host is getting the our server's hostname during the HELO
greeting stage of the transaction.

The server in question is water.ndic.com which is also ns1.ndic.com.
The PTR record points to ns1.ndic.com. I'm not sure what my server
answers as to the HELO greeting, but I'm guessing it's water.ndic.com
NOT ns1.ndic.com which must be my problem. Does this sound like good
logic? Is there an easy way to tell how my server is responding to the
HELO? Also, it's a Win2k Advanced Server. To change the hostname that
it answers as do I just change it in the Network properties of the
server and Imail will pick that up?

Thanks,
Masen

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:36:48 -0400, Sanford Whiteman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Exactly  my  understanding.
> 
> Eh, no. I don't think you followed Len precisely.
> 
> > Further,  it's  my  understanding  that reverse checks done by other
> > mail  servers on mail that we send looks at the sender domain in the
> > envelope  of the email and the IP address of the machine sending the
> > email (also in the envelope) then does a reverse lookup on the IP to
> > see if it matches the domain.
> 
> No,  this  is  not  the case. The PTR and the MAIL FROM: domain do not
> need  to  match  (unless you are deliberately using mechanisms such as
> SPF and the remote server is checking your SPF records--not to confuse
> the issue, but this is an exception).
> 
> > If  it  doesn't,  they  reject  the email causing the "blocking call
> > cancelled" errors in the Imail SMTP log.
> 
> I doubt you've established that this is the reason that the connection
> is dropped.
> 
> >   By   default,  Imail  writes  the  virtual  domain  to  the  email
> > envelope...
> 
> IMail  echoes  the  virtual host's official host name in the EHLO/HELO
> greeting.  You  _do_  need  to  have  an A record corresponding to the
> official host name.
> 
> > ...and since we have multiple virtual domains, the IP never reverses
> > to that domain.
> 
> That's  not  your  problem. You surely are missing another ingredient:
> correctly  delegated  PTR; sender-IP-to-PTR-to-A-to-sender-IP mapping;
> extant  A  record  for  official host name; and extant A/MX record for
> envelope  sender  domain  are other places to look. If you provide the
> real IP and DNS info, we can look into further from remote locations.
> 
> --Sandy
> 
> ------------------------------------
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> Broadleaf Systems, a division of
> Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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