Hi Ted,

I agree totally.

> people mad. Being an American comes with the right to chose many things
> rather than be forced into things.
Also valid for old europe ;-)

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Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2004 um 01:37 schrieben Sie:

> Jill,
> Sometimes best efforts are so poorly presented they override logic and make
> people mad. Being an American comes with the right to chose many things
> rather than be forced into things. Your bundling methodology has taken away
> our right to select what we want to use and continue service with Ipswitch.
> Of course this in turn os making us more than a little annoyed with the way
> it was presented :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jill Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

> Hi James,

> You are correct in your assessment that this edition of ICS wraps the
> components of the suite by an installer.  In the coming releases of ICS, you
> will see more and more integration of the different components.  At this
> point there is some integration in the ability to import IMail users into
> WorkgroupShare.  As for your assessment of the pricing - you are referring
> to the crossgrade prices - which, do not have a IMail component, as any
> customer that is eligible for the crossgrade already has IMail.  The value
> we are providing then, comes from paying close to the retail price of
> WorkgroupShare and getting IMail, IIM, AV and Service thrown in.

> Best regards,
> Jill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James P. Bednarz
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed

> I downloaded the trial of ICS and as we all suspected it is simply an
> install of Imail, IpswitchIM, and Workgroupshare (www.workgroupshare.com)

> 3 separate programs connected by an installer.

> The 3 software programs are not tied together one bit by code and do not
> rely on each other for anything. 

> The other installers install Imail 8.13 and IM 2.01 individually

> If you go to www.workgroupshare.com you can buy the collaboration software
> component 250 user license for $2995.

> Its almost as if Ipswitch is selling Imail, and IM as a cheap add on to this
> workgroupshare software. 

> All of this just makes you want to say What in tarnation is going on here?

> The fall of Ipswitch could be as bad as the fall of the New York Yankees!



> James P. Bednarz
> Information Technology Manager
> Kaestle Boos Associates, Inc.
> Teamwork Rules!


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