Thanks for the information Ché!

The installer definitely helps.  Seems to, at this moment, be more or less a
copy of the old one in terms of functionality; I hope they innovate in this
arena a bit and obviously they should with ZFS support and some other bells
perhaps being added here.  I'm also very much looking forward to further
refinement and expansion.


I will look into the other items that you've brought out as well.  Yes, the
Xen issue is a sore spot for sure, but it can become a crown jewel if just a
bit of polish and refinement are cast upon this immediately rather than
later after the backend work is refined.  It is often better for developers
to work on the front side after they get a least a somewhat functioning
backside done as it will lead to quicker adoption and much, much more
community feedback.  Sure they can stamp a big fat warning label on the
frontside to warn folks of the explosions that they may see while using it,
however it would go a long way to polish it up sooner than later.

Something also that would be very useful would be a better out of the box
environment setup.  It would be nice to see all bin paths already added and
some better direction right on the desktop for those of us just getting
started.

Also, I am currently struggling with b71 on the networking config.  It seems
that some things have changed and right off the bat I'm not able to config
my nics and so forth as before.  Any good getting started sites or
information for this?  I am really at an impasse.

Also, again, I'm noticing a large degree of slowness and it seems that a 1GB
machine would act a bit more quickly in loading apps, X and so on.


Thanks much!


-George



On 8/27/07, Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I'll respond to things where I can
>
> > I felt like I was jumping back to Linux circa '98 and fbsd around the
> same time when the ports system was being heavily developed.
>
> Agreed...there is work being done on the packaging system, take a look at
> the [u]Indiana Problem Statement[/u]: http://www.opensolaris.org/os
> /project/indiana/documents/problem_statement/ in particular. [u]3.2
> Package Management[/u]. Although if you are looking at a build system see
> [u]PKG-5[/u].
>
> >Second, put Xen in the front row.  We need to see that we can pop a
> Windows or other installation right in at the onset of installation (well, I
> mean immediately following installation).  Give us a nice gui like that
> which exists for ZFS and take folks by the hand so that we know that a
> VMware/Parallels like solution is right there waiting for us to utilize.
>
> I'll second that, a user friendly implementation that provides similar
> functionality to VMWare workstation would work a treat, at the moment you
> have to use the VNC client to "remotely" connect to your Xen Guest OS, not
> exactly intuitive...and setting up that Guest is another story.
>
> >Third, give us zfs config and installation by default.
>
> I'm pretty sure that ZFS default is a design goal, i'll be pretty
> surprised if it isn't
>
> >I would also add some polish to the installer.
>
> You can download a demo of the new dwarf-caiman installer here:
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/files/SUNWgui-install-x86.pkgor 
> if you are willing to run the latest Solaris Express Community Edition
> (NV70) you can use the real thing, see Dave Miner's blog entry:
> http://blogs.sun.com/dminer/entry/try_out_the_dwarf_caiman
>
> Also you can take a look at the screenshots here: http://www.gnome.org/%7Egman
> /gui-install/
>
> >Things also *seem* slow when you get into X.  I don't know why, but it
> just seems generally slower than XF86 or Xorg on an ubuntu distro, gentoo,
> etc.
>
> Try the help forum: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=31
>
> >I'll probably come back with many more suggestions if I find some time to
> install Nevada again and try to get netatalk going.
>
> Thanks again for your constructive feedback.
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