Sir, As per internet DOSAKAYA or DOSA KAYA is often used for cucumber, eg.- http://books.google.co.in/books?id=2HyC4-GJ50YC&pg=PA502&lpg=PA502&dq=dosakaya+fruit&source=bl&ots=DsKY-pWqXZ&sig=v_JAAwxygyFzeBUwXqOC5mfB4xc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NazNUdXELsOXrAfQoYCgCw&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=dosakaya%20fruit&f=false
There are many varieties of DOSAKAY, as can be searched in the net. An article may help - http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cgc/cgc03/cgc3-35.html Thank you Regards surajit On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > If these two photographs really belong to dosakaya, then it is a melon > (Cucumis melo subsp. agrestris var. dudaim). > http://pallavi-foodblog.blogspot.in/2008/07/garden.html > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > According to Piddington *Cucumis utilissimus* (Roxb.) is DOSKAY in > Telinga (p26 & p131). > Flora Indica, vol3, p721 describes, "... leaves five lobed, lobes rounded, > ... fruit short-oval, smooth. variegated, of the size of small melon...... > appears to me to be by far the most useful species....... when little more > than one-half grown they are oblong, and a little downy, in this state they > are pickled; when ripe they are about as large as an ostrich's egg, smooth > and yellow....... flavour of the melon..... this agriculture is chiefly > confined in to the Guntoor Circar....." > The illustration of the above - http://images.kew.org/ > cucumis_utilissimus_roxb/print/654452.html. > GRIN page - http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?404418 > Other illustrations of *Cucumis melo* & ssp - http://www. > plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=297153 > There is another *Cucumis momordica* Roxb. - PEDDA DOSKAY in Teling; > FOOTI in Bengali. "from 12 to 24 inches long, and three to six in diam..... > fruits when ripe bursting slowly". I have seen these in market and they are > eaten ripe as fruits, here. > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > Thanks Surajit > We seem to be moving towards Cucumis melo in place of Cucumis sativus as > suggested by most websites. > I seem to have both C. momordica, commonly grown in rajasthan with > pinkish-yellow skin and flesh. It is now Cucumis melo subsp. agrestris var. > momordica > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cucumis$ > 20momordica/indiantreepix/hEfwrm2XtQw/-2S9IRmaAccJ > C. agrestris susbp. agrestris var. conomon (the new name for C. > utillisimus Roxb.) I think is also different. I seem to have it. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cucumis$ > 20conomon/indiantreepix/ei0yO-n_CiI/kg5xxbQkcREJ > I have asked my son to send me more photographs of Dosakaya from > California, with section through the flesh, because flesh of var. dudaim is > very distinct more like our Sarda fruit. I hope we should be moving towards > it after someone finds real dosakaya vine. > Thanks a lot Surajit ji for your painstaking research. > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > > > > > > Also important to mention that in Indian works the name C. *utilissimus > *has been much confused, often applied to C. flexuousus, the tar or > kakri, of course wrongly as link by Surajit ji shows, and the following > discussion in Fl. Pakistan > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250077273 > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Date: 13 June 2013 22:11 > Subject: [efloraofindia:157520] Dossakaya is it Cucumis sativus or Cucumis > melo subsp. agrestris var. dudaim > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < > [email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>, > Dr Santhosh Kumar <[email protected]>, "D.S Rawat" < > [email protected]> > > > Dossakaya or dosakai the common fruit used in South India in sambar and > pachari preparations has been bothering me for some time. I saw plenty of > fruits sold in Indian stores in california, although I never found them > being sold here in Delhi. > Most websites including Wikipedia identify it as Cucumis sativus, but > the shape of the fruit, its size and skin does not support this. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucumber > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cucumber_dosakai.jpg > > There is one website calling it Cucumis callosus that is considered as C. > melo subsp. agrestis var. agrestis by Fl. Pakistan, but C. melo subsp. melo > by GRIN > > http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=j7fRTYqMLaI > > Yet another website considers it as C. melo subsp. agrestis var. dudaim > > > http://chivukulakitchen.blogspot.in/2010/04/dosakaya-pacchadi-round-yellow-cucumber.html > > > This last one looks more logical as fruits resemble pocket melons except > larger size. var. chito (lime melon, apple melon) look even more closer to > our dosakai. > > Can any friend help to solve this dilemma. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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