Sir, A correction or addition - i couldn't find names of varieties, but a few culinary blog discussions suggest presence of many varieties/cultivars of DOSAKAYA.
Thank you Regards surajit On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:38 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > As per internet DOSAKAYA or DOSA KAYA is often used for cucumber, eg.- > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=2HyC4-GJ50YC&pg=PA502&lpg=PA502&dq=dosakaya+fruit&source=bl&ots=DsKY-pWqXZ&sig=v_JAAwxygyFzeBUwXqOC5mfB4xc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NazNUdXELsOXrAfQoYCgCw&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=dosakaya%20fruit&f=false > > There are many varieties of DOSAKAY, as can be searched in the net. > > An article may help - http://cuke.hort.ncsu.edu/cgc/cgc03/cgc3-35.html > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> If these two photographs really belong to dosakaya, then it is a melon >> (Cucumis melo subsp. agrestris var. dudaim). >> http://pallavi-foodblog.blogspot.in/2008/07/garden.html >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> >> >> According to Piddington *Cucumis utilissimus* (Roxb.) is DOSKAY in >> Telinga (p26 & p131). >> Flora Indica, vol3, p721 describes, "... leaves five lobed, lobes >> rounded, ... fruit short-oval, smooth. variegated, of the size of small >> melon...... appears to me to be by far the most useful species....... when >> little more than one-half grown they are oblong, and a little downy, in >> this state they are pickled; when ripe they are about as large as an >> ostrich's egg, smooth and yellow....... flavour of the melon..... this >> agriculture is chiefly confined in to the Guntoor Circar....." >> The illustration of the above - http://images.kew.org/ >> cucumis_utilissimus_roxb/print/654452.html. >> GRIN page - http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?404418 >> Other illustrations of *Cucumis melo* & ssp - http://www. >> plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=297153 >> There is another *Cucumis momordica* Roxb. - PEDDA DOSKAY in Teling; >> FOOTI in Bengali. "from 12 to 24 inches long, and three to six in diam..... >> fruits when ripe bursting slowly". I have seen these in market and they are >> eaten ripe as fruits, here. >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> >> >> Thanks Surajit >> We seem to be moving towards Cucumis melo in place of Cucumis sativus as >> suggested by most websites. >> I seem to have both C. momordica, commonly grown in rajasthan with >> pinkish-yellow skin and flesh. It is now Cucumis melo subsp. agrestris var. >> momordica >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cucumis$ >> 20momordica/indiantreepix/hEfwrm2XtQw/-2S9IRmaAccJ >> C. agrestris susbp. agrestris var. conomon (the new name for C. >> utillisimus Roxb.) I think is also different. I seem to have it. >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cucumis$ >> 20conomon/indiantreepix/ei0yO-n_CiI/kg5xxbQkcREJ >> I have asked my son to send me more photographs of Dosakaya from >> California, with section through the flesh, because flesh of var. dudaim is >> very distinct more like our Sarda fruit. I hope we should be moving towards >> it after someone finds real dosakaya vine. >> Thanks a lot Surajit ji for your painstaking research. >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also important to mention that in Indian works the name C. *utilissimus >> *has been much confused, often applied to C. flexuousus, the tar or >> kakri, of course wrongly as link by Surajit ji shows, and the following >> discussion in Fl. Pakistan >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250077273 >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> Date: 13 June 2013 22:11 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:157520] Dossakaya is it Cucumis sativus or >> Cucumis melo subsp. agrestris var. dudaim >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < >> [email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]>, >> Dr Santhosh Kumar <[email protected]>, "D.S Rawat" < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Dossakaya or dosakai the common fruit used in South India in sambar and >> pachari preparations has been bothering me for some time. I saw plenty of >> fruits sold in Indian stores in california, although I never found them >> being sold here in Delhi. >> Most websites including Wikipedia identify it as Cucumis sativus, but >> the shape of the fruit, its size and skin does not support this. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucumber >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cucumber_dosakai.jpg >> >> There is one website calling it Cucumis callosus that is considered as C. >> melo subsp. agrestis var. agrestis by Fl. Pakistan, but C. melo subsp. melo >> by GRIN >> >> http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=j7fRTYqMLaI >> >> Yet another website considers it as C. melo subsp. agrestis var. dudaim >> >> >> http://chivukulakitchen.blogspot.in/2010/04/dosakaya-pacchadi-round-yellow-cucumber.html >> >> >> This last one looks more logical as fruits resemble pocket melons except >> larger size. var. chito (lime melon, apple melon) look even more closer to >> our dosakai. >> >> Can any friend help to solve this dilemma. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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