Any more feedback, Dinesh ji, based on detailed differences between the two as given?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 17:16, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > solanaceaesource > <https://solanaceaesource.myspecies.info/taxonomy/term/107381/descriptions> > gives quite a detailed inf. > Pl. check with this also and confirm. > As per this: > Deb (1979) relegated *S. hovei* to the synonymy of the widespread and > highly variable *Solanum violaceum* (as *S. indicum*). *Solanum violaceum* > differs > from *S. hovei* in having recurved cauline prickles, broadly elliptic to > ovate leaves, sinuate to more deeply lobed leaf margins, rounded to > subcordate leaf bases, and erect fruiting pedicels. In contrast, *S. > hovei* has predominantly straight cauline prickles, rhombic to > subelliptic leaves, shallowly triangular-lobed leaf margins, acute to > short-attenuate leaf bases, and often recurved fruiting pedicels. > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 07:43, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> ID of the posted plant is suggested as *Solanum hovei* Dunal at >> iNaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145238916>. >> >> More about >> SAHNI, K. C.; NAITHANI, H. B.. *A Note on the Occurrence of Solanum >> hovei Dunal in India.* Indian Forester, [S.l.], p. 580-583, oct. 1973. >> ISSN 2321-094X. Available at: < >> https://www.indianforester.co.in/index.php/indianforester/article/view/27060>. >> >> doi:10.36808/if/1975/v101i10/27060. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Monday, 1 October 2012 at 21:42:55 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> The plant often gone under the name Solanum indicum in Indian Floras has >>> now been understood as several species. One such is S. anguivi which has >>> again white flowers with purple veins on outside and more important there >>> are numerous berries in a bunch. >>> >>> http://database.prota.org/PROTAhtml/Solanum%20anguivi_Fr.htm >>> >>> Please also see the key on our website >>> >>> >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/solanum >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Satish Phadke <drsmp...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Why not Solanum anguivi?which is reported from KAS >>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think Prabhu ji is right, it should be S. violaceum with broad-based >>>>> prickles and purple-violet flowers >>>>> However, as per recent interpretation of S. lasiocarpum (these species >>>>> have been much confused in the past), S. lasiocarpum has only white (and >>>>> not purple) flowers and characteristic hairy ovary and berry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/solanaceaesource/taxonomy/description-detail.jsp?spnumber=3386 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020589 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very very very much Prabhu ji for the correction. >>>>>> I will do the changes in my flickr notes shortly. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Prabhu kumar KM <prabhum...@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Dineshji Good shot............ >>>>>>> But it is not *S. lasiocarpum* >>>>>>> I think it is *Solanum violaceum* Ortega ssp. *violaceum* >>>>>>> Please check. >>>>>>> *S. lasiocarpum: *Robust shrubs, to 1.5 m high; stems densely >>>>>>> spineus prickled and stellate hairy. Leaves to 35 x 35 cm, >>>>>>> ovate-orbicular, >>>>>>> entire or shallowly lacerate; stellate hairs unequally armed; petioles >>>>>>> 5-10 >>>>>>> cm long. Flowers in groups of 2-3, axillary, epedunculate; pedicels >>>>>>> short; >>>>>>> calyx densely stellate hairy; corolla 3-4 cm across, blue, hairy >>>>>>> outside; >>>>>>> ovary densely hairy. Berry 3-5 cm across, globose, densely covered with >>>>>>> spineus bristles. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Solanum violaceum* Ortega ssp. *violaceum: *Armed undershrubs, >>>>>>> up to 1.5 m tall; branches minutely stellate-hairy on young parts, >>>>>>> glabrate >>>>>>> when mature. Leaves 5-12 x 4-7 cm, ovate or ovate-oblong, sinuately to >>>>>>> deeply lobed, base rounded or unequal, apex subacute, sparsely >>>>>>> stellate-hairy above, stellate-woolly beneath, prickly on the nerves; >>>>>>> petiole to 2.5 cm long. Flowers bluish-violet in extra-axillary >>>>>>> racemes; >>>>>>> peduncle c. 4 cm long; pedicel to 8 mm long. Calyx cupular; lobes 5, >>>>>>> c. 5 >>>>>>> mm long, triangular, prickly. Corolla c. 2 cm across, campanulate. >>>>>>> Stamens 5; anthers c. 5 mm long. Ovary c. 2 x 2 mm, globose; stigma >>>>>>> acute. Berry 0.8-1.3 cm across, globose; orange yellow when ripe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Prabhu Kumar K M* >>>>>>> Scientist >>>>>>> Plant Systematics & Genetic Resources Division >>>>>>> Centre for Medicinal Plants Research (CMPR) >>>>>>> & 'CMPR' Herbarium >>>>>>> Kottakkal Arya Vaidya Sala >>>>>>> Kottakkal, Malappuram >>>>>>> *E-mail: prabhum...@gmail.com* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/06eb2763-8e57-417e-8126-bc80ae1ca278n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/06eb2763-8e57-417e-8126-bc80ae1ca278n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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