Dear all, Apologise if i have hurted anyones sentiments... ... and my knowledge is like a drop in a big jar of Dr. Singh and many others on group.
though i am proud that whatever i have learnt is in a right direction... i dont want to pick wrong things from The Plant List... for eg.. suppose Kosteletzkya vitifolia name is unresolved because it doesnt have basionym in original publication... that doesnt mean that Hibiscus vitifolia becames the correct name... instead of making Kosteletzkya vitifolia valid by new publication or in newly fresh combination with valid publication,,,, or it has to put on discussion.... all the members are just blindly following the Plant list or other sites for identification of plants... We should not forget the purpose of the group... my intention is just contribute to group for bringing plants valid correct name in front of the world.. regards, On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: > This what ICBN Vienna Code 2006 Article 33.5 states > > "33.5. For names published on or after 1 January 1953, errors in the > citation of the basionym or replaced synonym, including incorrect author > citation (Art. 46 <http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/frameset/0050Ch4Sec3a046.htm>), > but not omissions (Art. > 33.4<http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/frameset/0037Ch4Sec2a033.htm#33.4.>), > do not preclude valid publication of a new combination, new generic name > with a basionym, or nomen novum." > > Tanay > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear H.S Ji. >> I appreciate your knowledge in plant but I think your way of reciprocating >> to senior colleagues of the group is not quite O.K for me. In scientific >> community >> if you are vehemently protesting some ideas then you should have a strong >> evidence >> for it. It not us who makes these nomenclatural changes but the credit >> goes to ICBN. >> Kosteletzkya vitifolia (L.) M.R.Almeida & N.Patil J. Bombay Nat. Hist. >> Soc. 93: 111 1996 >> is an unresolved name the reason for it is the absence of basionym in the >> publication. >> Hence, the new nomenclatural change doesn't make any effect and the old >> name or the >> basionym i.e. Hibiscus vitifolius L. stays as the the legitimate name. >> Kindly go through the link provided below. >> >> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2334897 >> >> As a moderator of the group I will request you to be cordial with fellow >> members of the >> group. Though identification of plant is the main aim of our group but we >> always make sure >> that the interaction within the group stays soothing and peaceful. No >> comments from >> any members of the group should hurt the sentiments of others. I will >> request you to kindly >> stick to the group norm and try to help help members >> with identification in a bit cordial >> manner. Your knowledge in taxonomy is an asset to the group hence we will >> always look >> to get our knowledge refreshed from your ideas. >> forward >> >> Thanks >> Tanay >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:21 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> this plant doesnt comes under genus Hibiscus.... its different. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Both GRIN and The Plant List treat Hibiscus vitifolius L. as the >>>> accepted name. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:25 AM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> i think Kosteletzkya vitifolia (L.) M.R.Almeida & N.Patil >>>>> is correct name for this plant. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:03 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar < >>>>> le...@rediffmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Involucral bracts are not forked and calyx is not prickly/bristly. >>>>>> Note the nodding corolla also. This is hence not H. radiatus but >>>>>> Fioria vitifolia. Regards, Shrikant >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 7, 12:11 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > More shots of leaves and epicalyx should be helpful. To me it does >>>>>> not look >>>>>> > like H. radiatus. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> > Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Narendra Joshi < >>>>>> narend...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > > Hibiscus radiatus >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > -- >>>>>> > > With Regards, >>>>>> > > Narendra Joshi- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> > >>>>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> - H.S. >>>>> >>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >>>>> of stone >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - H.S. >>> >>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >>> of stone >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Tanay Bose* >> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >> Department of Botany. >> University of British Columbia . >> 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >> 604-822-2019 (Lab) >> 604-822-6089 (Fax) >> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca >> *Webpages:* >> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html >> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ >> >> >> > > > -- > *Tanay Bose* > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. > Department of Botany. > University of British Columbia . > 3529-6270 University Blvd. > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) > 604-822-2019 (Lab) > 604-822-6089 (Fax) > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca > *Webpages:* > http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html > http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ > > > -- - H.S. A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone
