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i wish all indian bot gardens would be like it... would be wonderful. usha di On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > Form now on i am going to give priority to GRIN in my search preferences. > > Wishing best for your California trip, if it were not the net, we would > certainly miss you, and i never like to miss you. > > Regards, > > surajit > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Sorry Surajit ji and Ushadi >> I said yes to the plant being T. grandiflora without reading your first >> line about KEW The Plant List listing. >> Having gone through the Plant List, with so many missing names, >> unresolved names, and many wrong synonymy records, I have become >> increasingly unsure about The Plant List. I prefer to follow GRIN for >> records which are dealt there and periodically updated by its scientists. >> GRIN as well as several recent treatments recognise T. grandiflora. as >> distinct species. >> Yes Ushadi is right, T. alata is a sufficiently distinct from T. >> grandiflora, and to call T. grandiflora its synonym at least I find hard to >> digest. >> >> If there is any species closest and can be combined with is T. >> laurifolia. The two are very close. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:09 PM, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> yes Surajit >>> grows at the hort and elliot park on chowringhee and many places in and >>> around the canals in shyambazar etc... saw them during the whirlwind >>> durgapuja pandal hopping a couple of years ago.... >>> >>> your second question I think is the Thunbergia alata... its well >>> accepted that thunbergia alata is a distinctly different species... it had >>> different structure of flowers and leaf... >>> I am enclosing a picture here, from NYBG where plants are displayed with >>> labels once it s classified by their botanists and horticulturists team... >>> I value their opinion above any website for sure... >>> >>> this was labelled a* t. alata orange flowers*... did not photograph >>> the label because I have my self had been growing the typical Yellow >>> flowered t. alata vine for many many years as part of my nostalgia of India >>> garden... t. alata is south african origin as far as I know.. ..yet my >>> Grandma's garden on the east coast or the west coast always had them almost >>> growing like wild ... this link shows both colors.... >>> http://www.plantzafrica.com/planttuv/thunbergalata.htm >>> >>> To confuse the issue its also called *black eyed susan* by some areas >>> of the english speaking world including popular name in seed catalogues and >>> popular flower for cutflower trade in USA and europe and now grows wild >>> in the meadows all over...and by the roadsides ....this Black eyed susan is >>> *Rudbeckia hirta of Aster family... * >>> http://www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ecology/black-eyed_susan.htm >>> ecologically an important plant, its considered so at least in the USA >>> you'll see that in the site above..... >>> enjoy >>> Usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:30 AM, satyendra tiwari >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Surjit ji, >>>> I hope new comers will learn from your posts. How to do homework before >>>> posting it on Eflora. >>>> Nice Pictures. A similar plant is growing on fence in village Tala >>>> Umaria M.P. I will check when it flowers. >>>> Regards. >>>> Satyendra >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 August 2012 01:41, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes Surajit >>>>> Very nice photographs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> KEW says *Thunbergia grandiflora* Roxb. is a synonym of T*hunbergia >>>>>> alata* Bojer ex >>>>>> Sims.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-100139>But 'google >>>>>> search' gives all yellow flowers for T >>>>>> *hunbergia alata* Bojer ex Sims ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Species : *Thunbergia grandiflora* >>>>>> Roxb.<http://www.tropicos.org/name/100139?projectid=27> >>>>>> Habit & Habitat : climber, found outside a residence >>>>>> Date : 18/8/12, 4.41 P.M. >>>>>> Place : Barijahati (Hooghly) >>>>>> website visited : >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242352257 >>>>>> 2. >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242352257 >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/EzseeCmIDok/discussion >>>>>> 4. >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/lyVN2BHvQEc/discussion >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Satyendra K.Tiwari. >>>> Wildlife Photographer, Naturalist, Tour Leader >>>> H.NO <http://h.no/> 129, P.O.Tala, Distt Umariya. >>>> M.P. 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