Tapi emang susah sih 'ful. Coba loe dihadapkan ama teroris yg jelas2 ngaku ngebom kantor kita, yg mengakibatkan temen2 kita trauma, celaka dsb. Pastilah akan susah sekali menerapkan azas praduga tak bersalah itu...yg ada udah gemes duluan dan pengen rasanya maki2 si teroris tersebut..
Misalnya, ada maling ketangkep tangan di rumah lagi curi kolor, mesin cuci dan televisi. Nah, apakah kita masih bisa menerapkan azas praduga tdk bersalah atau men-judged si maling itu dengan kata2 makian dan kadang2 jurus2 silat sudah mulai berterbangan. Loe tau sendiri khan, si maling belum dinyatakan bersalah secara hukum SAMPAI pengadilan memutuskan hal tersebut... Bayangin seberapa geramnya anda kalo kolor anda digondol maling..hehehehe - Ivan PS. Para admiral mana nih? ________________________________ From: iful <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 19 January, 2010 9:24:41 AM Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] HUMAN RIGHT #11: We Are Always Innocent Until Proven Guilty Praduga tak bersalah ---> seharusnya nih diduga sementara tidak bersalah tapi pembuktian hukum tetap dilaksaknakan sehingga ada pembuktian dan sah secara hukum (salah atau tidak bersalah)... dan selama pembutian "tersangka" tetap diperlakukan selayaknya manusia. yg berhak untuk tidak merasa 'takut' atau terintimidasi selama proses hukum berlangsung. kenyataannya. ...tau sendiri lah....kita salalu dibuat tidak "nyaman" kalo sdh berhubungan dng proses hukum, baik di sisi yg salah ataupun di sisi yg benar. KOndisi nyaman akan membuat tersangka yg terbukti bersalah akan merasa mendapatkan perlakuan adil ketika menerima hukuman. /ivul On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Ignatius Wibowo < wib...@artzdesign- studio.com> wrote: > Ngomong soal ini, sebenernya istilah 'praduga tak bersalah' itu bener gak? > Imho, istilah itu berarti diduga tidak bersalah. Jadi karena sudah diduga > tak bersalah, ya gak usah dibuktikan lagi kan? Atau justru dicari bukti dia > gak bersalah. > > Kalo innocent until proven guilty kan artinya beda, bahwa orang itu > dianggap tidak bersalah (tapi tentunya diduga bahwa ia bersalah), sampai > ada bukti dia bersalah. > > Ribet, tapi istilah praduga tak bersalah sering dipakai untuk alasan > mengelak? > > Regards, > Ignatius Wibowo > =========== > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: "ivan" <alidjajaivan@ yahoo.com. au> > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:07:28 > To: <indo-startrek@ yahoogroups. com> > Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] HUMAN RIGHT #11: We Are Always Innocent Until > Proven Guilty > > Di berbagai tempat, masih ada yg 'always guilty until proven innocent' . > Msh ingat kata2 'gantung dulu, pengadilan belakangan'. > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® through subspace channel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "ER [Energy Revolution]" <erianto.rachman@ gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:48:45 > > To: <indo-startrek@ yahoogroups. com> > > Subject: [Indo-StarTrek] HUMAN RIGHT #11: We Are Always Innocent Until > Proven Guilty > > > > HUMAN RIGHT #11: > > > > > > We Are Always Innocent Until Proven Guilty > > > > > > > > > > Nobody should be blamed for doing something until it is proven. When people > > say we did a bad thing we have the right to show it is not true. > > > > > > > > Please spend 1 minute of your time to watch this video. > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=RjnYRJ2PC_ 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Salam, > > > > ER > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > Support Energy [R]evolution Now! > > > > www.human-earth. blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ============ [indo-startrek@ yahoogroups. com]=========== > [Indo-StarTrek] Indonesian Star Trek Community > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/indo- startrek > "...to boldly go where no Indonesian has gone before." > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ > Website: http://www.indo- startrek. org > Forum: http://www.indo- startrek. org/forum > Friendster: http://www.friendst er.com/isc2006 > Facebook: http://www.facebook .com/group. php?gid=37387153 891 > =/\= ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= = =/\=Yahoo! Groups > Links > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ============ [indo-startrek@ yahoogroups. com]=========== > [Indo-StarTrek] Indonesian Star Trek Community > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/indo- startrek > "...to boldly go where no Indonesian has gone before." > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ > Website: http://www.indo- startrek. org > Forum: http://www.indo- startrek. org/forum > Friendster: http://www.friendst er.com/isc2006 > Facebook: http://www.facebook .com/group. php?gid=37387153 891 > =/\= ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= = =/\=Yahoo! Groups > Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
