Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too
> wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some authors
> of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.
> Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good, some
> edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape
> Explained"
> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC 
> <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC)>)
> it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from beginner,
> intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game art/animation
> from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste (pastebin)
> in here in format:
> Author AuthorChannelUrl
> with narration
> VideoUrl
> VideoDescription
> 
> I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?

- Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.

If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout the
page. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.

Regards,
 Maren

> 04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" <br...@frii.com>:
>>
>> So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so I'm clear
>> what's
>> happening.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
>> To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree
>> to upload
>> videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top
>> 10 or
>> something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and
>> request that
>> they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)
>>
>>
>> 04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de
>> <mailto:ma...@goos-habermann.de>>:
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
>> to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
>> extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But
>> again, that's not something I can start on right away.
>>
>>
>>
>> - But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
>> might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
>> a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
>> want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
>> still open, no decision was made).
>>
>>
>>
>> But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
>> more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets
>> came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)
>>
>> But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.
>>
>>
>>
>> - He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
>> switch, not sure.
>>
>> Maren
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
>> I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
>> page. But
>> now we are putting them in the gallery?
>>
>> - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
>> entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
>> well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
>> commenting ...
>>
>> I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
>> videos to be added by their creators.
>>
>> But maybe that would be going too far?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
>> External
>> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>>
>>
>> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com <mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>> I don't understand what this means:
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>>           I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
>> better
>> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
>> already
>> are
>> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
>> However,
>> you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right
>> column,
>> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
>>           Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not
>> put such a
>> tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as
>> if there
>> were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
>> tutorials?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
>> tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
>> extensions.
>>
>> (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
>>
>>
>>           But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's
>> asking to
>> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
>> work automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't ever done that
>> before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>>           I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because
>> I know
>> they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look
>> like.
>> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
>>           But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and
>> embedding it.
>> Are
>> all YT videos automatically public domain?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials)
>> and
>> don't
>> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section
>> (current
>> video
>> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text
>> based than
>> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials
>> category
>> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of
>> a mess
>> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you
>> thinks?
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
>>
>>
>> 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com <mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher.
>> Is there
>> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
>> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
>> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
>> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
>> one).
>>
>> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
>> gallery widgets.
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>>
>>
>> No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
>> tutorials, with a
>> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
>> needs some
>> attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
>> organized
>> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
>> me). I'm not
>> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
>> and I'm
>> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
>> more
>> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
>> current with
>> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <br...@frii.com <mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>>            Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
>> Inkscape
>> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>> first
>> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
>> ALWAYS
>> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
>> it, he still
>> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>> they are
>> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>>            Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
>> think only a
>> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
>> very good!
>>            I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
>> it out.
>>            Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
>> page more
>> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
>> are
>> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>> project, and
>> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> Hello, Brynn,
>> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
>> your website
>> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
>> in website,
>> Thanks for you help. ;-)
>> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>> Saporito
>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>> he have
>> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
>> Tutorials,
>> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>> Tutorials, Inkscape
>> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
>> Inkscape,
>> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
>> for game
>> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>> patterns, too in
>> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
>> And Drawing
>> have interesting tutorials
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>> bkhs).
>>
>> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
>> more
>> interest.
>>
>> What do you thinks about that?
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <br...@frii.com <mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
>> I consider
>> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
>> any errors
>> or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
>> <https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/>
>> /index.php
>> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
>> current
>> pretty soon.
>>
>> I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but
>> can't start
>> on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to
>> help you, if
>> you wanted or needed it.
>>
>> One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link
>> on that
>> page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They
>> aren't all
>> video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current.
>>
>> Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking
>> for
>> volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's
>> looking
>> to help out.)
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM
>> To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in
>> this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is
>> bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video
>> quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is
>> hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching
>> in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ?
>> In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video
>> tutorials.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd
>> like
>> to have a go.
>>
>> The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make
>> a
>> list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it
>> together on a website.
>>
>> Sound like fun?
>>
>> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>> Website Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for
>> discussion. :-)
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