Am 04.01.2017 um 01:04 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> Great. :-) I'm made simple ideas how to layout list of tutorials in
> here: https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/
> <https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/Maybe>
> Brynn, it's good for you after full list is done? Maybe anyone comments
> about layout, ideas? :-)
> Thanks. ;-)

- Just an idea: Maybe rather not copy-paste the video description, but
write something very short yourself? We can help with the wording, don't
let language stop you ;-)

The order of things looks good to me.

Regards,
 Maren

> 04.01.2017, 00:55, "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de>:
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
>>
>>      I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too
>>      wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some
>>     authors
>>      of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.
>>      Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good,
>>     some
>>      edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape
>>      Explained"
>>      
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC
>>     
>> <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC)>)
>>      it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from
>>     beginner,
>>      intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game
>>     art/animation
>>      from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste
>>     (pastebin)
>>      in here in format:
>>      Author AuthorChannelUrl
>>      with narration
>>      VideoUrl
>>      VideoDescription
>>
>>      I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?
>>
>>
>> - Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.
>>
>> If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout the
>> page. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Maren
>>
>>      04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" <br...@frii.com <mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>>          So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so
>>         I'm clear
>>          what's
>>          happening.
>>
>>          Thanks,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message-----
>>          From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
>>          To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ;
>>         inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>          <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>
>>          I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if
>>         authors agree
>>          to upload
>>          videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in
>>         page Top
>>          10 or
>>          something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and
>>          request that
>>          they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)
>>
>>
>>          04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" <ma...@goos-habermann.de
>>         <mailto:ma...@goos-habermann.de>
>>          <mailto:ma...@goos-habermann.de
>>         <mailto:ma...@goos-habermann.de>>>:
>>
>>
>>          Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>>          I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had
>>         a chance
>>          to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is
>>         doing for
>>          extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the
>>         site. But
>>          again, that's not something I can start on right away.
>>
>>
>>
>>          - But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder
>>         if he
>>          might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward,
>>         instead of
>>          a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if
>>         we still
>>          want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and
>>         the field is
>>          still open, no decision was made).
>>
>>
>>
>>          But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page
>>         a little
>>          more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all
>>         those bullets
>>          came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did
>>         (years ago)
>>
>>          But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.
>>
>>
>>
>>          - He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation
>>         for the
>>          switch, not sure.
>>
>>          Maren
>>
>>
>>
>>          Thanks
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
>>          Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
>>          To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>          <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>          Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
>>          I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video
>>         Tutorials
>>          page. But
>>          now we are putting them in the gallery?
>>
>>          - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission
>>         that page
>>          entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do
>>         it just as
>>          well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
>>          commenting ...
>>
>>          I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier
>>         for new
>>          videos to be added by their creators.
>>
>>          But maybe that would be going too far?
>>
>>          Regards,
>>          Maren
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
>>          To: brynn
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>
>>          https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name,
>>         Descriptin,
>>          External
>>          Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>>
>>
>>          03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com> <mailto:br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com>>>:
>>
>>
>>          I don't understand what this means:
>>
>>
>>
>>          - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>>          Thanks
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann
>>          Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
>>          To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>          <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>>         <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>          Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>>          Hi Vardenis,
>>                    I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking
>>         it would be
>>          better
>>          not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well,
>>         they
>>          already
>>          are
>>          mixed up in the gallery
>>         (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
>>          However,
>>          you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on
>>         the right
>>          column,
>>          where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white
>>         text?
>>                    Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author
>>         did not
>>          put such a
>>          tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's
>>         blank, as
>>          if there
>>          were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to
>>         the video
>>          tutorials?
>>
>>
>>
>>          - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the
>>         gallery. The
>>          tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works
>>         for the
>>          extensions.
>>
>>          (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this
>>         question.)
>>
>>
>>                    But Martin is talking about something else, I
>>         think. He's
>>          asking to
>>          have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
>>
>>
>>
>>          - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The
>>         embedding will
>>          work automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>>          I haven't ever done that
>>          before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>>                    I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex
>>         vids, because
>>          I know
>>          they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's
>>         going to look
>>          like.
>>          I'll do it in just a few minutes.
>>                    But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and
>>          embedding it.
>>          Are
>>          all YT videos automatically public domain?
>>
>>
>>
>>          - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
>>
>>          Regards,
>>          Maren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>          Thanks,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
>>          To: brynn
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>
>>          I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video
>>         Tutorials)
>>          and
>>          don't
>>          upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section
>>          (current
>>          video
>>          tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more
>>         text
>>          based than
>>          videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to
>>         tutorials
>>          category
>>          (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become
>>         a bit of
>>          a mess
>>          and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense.
>>         What do you
>>          thinks?
>>
>>          Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
>>
>>
>>          03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com> <mailto:br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com>>>:
>>
>>
>>          First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video
>>         watcher.
>>          Is there
>>          no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>>
>>          Thanks,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
>>          Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
>>          To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Cc: Inkscape-Docs
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>>         in website
>>
>>          Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website,
>>         if you add
>>          the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and
>>         you can
>>          add text and other important information like the license (if
>>         there is
>>          one).
>>
>>          This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages
>>         using the
>>          gallery widgets.
>>
>>          Martin,
>>
>>          On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>>
>>
>>          No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
>>          tutorials, with a
>>          link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That
>>         page
>>          needs some
>>          attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it
>>         got to be
>>          organized
>>          like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>>          Thanks for your help,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>>          To: brynn
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>>          website
>>
>>
>>          No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't
>>         agree with
>>          me). I'm not
>>          editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials"
>>         section,
>>          and I'm
>>          thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials
>>         can be
>>          more
>>          helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>>          I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar
>>         to the
>>          current with
>>          new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>>          02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com> <mailto:br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com>>>:
>>
>>
>>          Hi Vardenis,
>>                     Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a
>>         huge amount of
>>          Inkscape
>>          tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>>          first
>>          started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy
>>         that he
>>          ALWAYS
>>          calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I
>>         mentioned
>>          it, he still
>>          keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>>          they are
>>          helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>>                     Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text
>>         tutorials. I
>>          think only a
>>          few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos?
>>         But yes,
>>          very good!
>>                     I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link
>>         and check
>>          it out.
>>                     Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video
>>         Tutorials
>>          page more
>>          current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say
>>         that you
>>          are
>>          going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>>          project, and
>>          edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>
>>          All best,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>          Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>>          To: brynn
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>>          website
>>
>>
>>          Hello, Brynn,
>>          Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help
>>         with
>>          your website
>>          and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials
>>         section
>>          in website,
>>          Thanks for you help. ;-)
>>          I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>>          Saporito
>>          
>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>>          he have
>>          playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape
>>         Beginner
>>          Tutorials,
>>          Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>>          Tutorials, Inkscape
>>          Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced
>>         topics in
>>          Inkscape,
>>          too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>>          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists
>>         )
>>          for game
>>          art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>>          patterns, too in
>>          channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art -
>>         Inkscape
>>          And Drawing
>>          have interesting tutorials
>>          
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>>          bkhs).
>>
>>          I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more
>>         modern and
>>          more
>>          interest.
>>
>>          What do you thinks about that?
>>
>>          Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>>
>>
>>          02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com> <mailto:br...@frii.com
>>         <mailto:br...@frii.com>>>:
>>
>>
>>          I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list
>>         of what
>>          I consider
>>          the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't
>>         contain
>>          any errors
>>          or outdated steps) on my website:
>>         https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
>>         <https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/>
>>          <https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/>
>>          /index.php
>>          It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll
>>         make it
>>          current
>>          pretty soon.
>>
>>          I have a plan to bring them all over to the website,
>>         eventually, but
>>          can't start
>>          on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be
>>         glad to
>>          help you, if
>>          you wanted or needed it.
>>
>>          One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put
>>         a link
>>          on that
>>          page, to this page
>>         https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They
>>          aren't all
>>          video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current.
>>
>>          Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also
>>         asking
>>          for
>>          volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I
>>         know he's
>>          looking
>>          to help out.)
>>
>>          All best,
>>          brynn
>>
>>          -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens
>>          Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM
>>          To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs
>>          Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>>          website
>>
>>          On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote:
>>
>>
>>          Hello,
>>          "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in
>>          this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these
>>         tutorials is
>>          bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer
>>         (video
>>          quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website
>>         (Because is
>>          hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people
>>         searching
>>          in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ?
>>          In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video
>>          tutorials.
>>
>>
>>
>>          I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd
>>          like
>>          to have a go.
>>
>>          The first thing to do is to think about what's out there,
>>         maybe make
>>          a
>>          list of all the really great stuff, then think about how
>>         you'd put it
>>          together on a website.
>>
>>          Sound like fun?
>>
>>          Best Regards, Martin Owens
>>          Website Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>>          Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for
>>          discussion. :-)
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